Does Queen Elizabeth have her own private medical staff?

[Leo_Bloom]

@Tim_T-Bonham.net

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And we have photographic evidence that both of his sons are NOT circumcised.

Wait, what?

[Leo_Bloom]

@UDS

Circumcision is, or used to be, a class marker in the UK - the further up the social scale you went, the greater the prevalence of male circumcision. This started to change from about the 1970s onwards, but when Prince Charles was born, in 1948, it was very much a thing…

Now this, in the zillions of things about class that Americans and British find so interesting about each other, is a new one on me.

In your HO, where the hell does this come from?

ETA: For those playing or simply following along, who may be unfamiliar with the word until now, mohel is pronounced in the West (can’t speak for S’fardim), as moyl. This silly cite has the nuances of pronunciation.)

[Leo_Bloom]

ETA2:

@UDS

… This silly cite has the nuances of pronunciation.)…

Now that I look at it, the cite is silly, but the site as a whole is written by an engaging rabbi and practicing mohel and is quite large and informative.

[Mumberthax]

Well, when you’re 92 years old, you’re gonna need more health care than the average schlub. So, HM having her own private medical team sounds about right. She probably gets her vital signs taken every day, and her diet monitored VERY carefully.

[alphaboi867]

@Leo_Bloom

Wait, what?

It’s true, both William and Harry have had nude photos leaked or taken by paparazzi.

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[Broomstick]

@Leo_Bloom

A long time ago I read or heard (in a typical weird Jewishpride context) that a mohel–a specialist, after all–was called in for Prince Charles for that particular procedure.

My first reaction is that it would have never occurred to me that any member of the royal family was circumcised. I mean, why? But I can accept it possibly being a class distinction. (Which would still merit a “why?” but whatever). Regardless, it’s far from unheard of for someone to be both an MD and mohel and for a member of the royals it wouldn’t surprise me that they would use a mohel with those credentials.

@Leo_Bloom

FWIW, it is reported that the Presidential limo always has on-board a bag or whatever of type-matched blood for POTUS.

Really? Blood requires refrigeration if it’s kept for any length of time, and it’s not useful without someone medically trained to administer it. They certainly didn’t use any such thing when Reagan was shot. I have to doubt this, unless you can provide a cite.

@UDS

Circumcision is, or used to be, a class marker in the UK - the further up the social scale you went, the greater the prevalence of male circumcision.

Why?

Reportedly, Prince Charles favoured having his own sons circumcised, but his then wife demurred.

Go Lady Di.

[UDS]

@UDS

Circumcision is, or used to be, a class marker in the UK . . .

@Broomstick

Why?

God knows. But, hazarding a guess . . .

At some point it became fashionable because it was believed to confer hygiene or health benefits. But, as an elective medical procedure, you only had it if you could afford it; thus it became more common in higher socioeconomic groups, which reinforced its status as a class marker, which is self-perpetuating.

I have heard it suggested that the decline of the fashion started in the 1940s, when the NHS was launched. The NHS wouldn’t provide it because it (mostly) has no medical benefits, and such is the faith of the British people in the wisdom and sufficiency of the NHS that this led people to conclude that it wasn’t necessary. Ypu could still have it if you paid extra for it, but people saw no need to pay for what the NHS did not consider it necessary to provide.

[PatrickLondon]

@nearwildheaven

There’s a DC pharmacy which is contracted to fill prescriptions for Congresspeople and their families; IDK if the POTUS and family use it too. It sounds like it’s one component of a concierge medical practice.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/old-school-pharmacy-hand-delivers-drugs-congress-little-known-perk-powerful

I’m assuming that the same thing is done in England, via the NHS, of course.

Again, there’s some on-site medical provision*, but for bigger emergencies, one of the leading teaching hospitals in the country is just opposite on the other side of the river. For regular medical care MPs and government ministers make their own arrangements, NHS or private, as anyone else.

*Much as many other large organisations do, in this case, see page 94 of https://www.parliament.uk/documents/foi/members-handbook.pdf

[Jackmannii]

I recall hearing there’s a Royal Urgi-Center just down the block from the Palace.

[Leo_Bloom]

@Broomstick

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…Blood requires refrigeration if it’s kept for any length of time, and it’s not useful without someone medically trained to administer it. They certainly didn’t use any such thing when Reagan was shot. I have to doubt this, unless you can provide a cite…

Wiki, via Daily Mail cite, FWIW…Although it seems like a strange thing to plant as disinformation, like it having death rays, or whatever.

[alphaboi867]

@UDS

God knows. But, hazarding a guess . . .

At some point it became fashionable because it was believed to confer hygiene or health benefits. But, as an elective medical procedure, you only had it if you could afford it; thus it became more common in higher socioeconomic groups, which reinforced its status as a class marker, which is self-perpetuating.

I have heard it suggested that the decline of the fashion started in the 1940s, when the NHS was launched. The NHS wouldn’t provide it because it (mostly) has no medical benefits, and such is the faith of the British people in the wisdom and sufficiency of the NHS that this led people to conclude that it wasn’t necessary. Ypu could still have it if you paid extra for it, but people saw no need to pay for what the NHS did not consider it necessary to provide.

IIRC it started with Queen Victoria; she was convinced to have her sons circumcised (either for hygiene or to emphasize the royal family’s descent from Noah), word spread and the upper class just copied her to be fashionable.

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[Tom_Tildrum]

Nowadays, people have their girl babies’ ears pierced instead.

[UDS]

@alphaboi867

IIRC it started with Queen Victoria; she was convinced to have her sons circumcised (either for hygiene or to emphasize the royal family’s descent from Noah), word spread and the upper class just copied her to be fashionable.

Nitpick: If you buy into a literal reading of Genesis, everybody’s descended from Noah, surely?

[Broomstick]

:rolleyes:

Yeah, I have some strong feelings about that but I probably shouldn’t derail the thread.

[Sloe_Moe]

Just to move it away from her sons’ dicks, I want to say this lady is the real deal (from an unashamed admirer.)

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bd353305145187e1c39b48766a571b7d.webp

Look at that trigger discipline, and that soldier behind the rifle should get a punch in the mouth.

[PatrickLondon]

Not while he’s holding her umbrella.

(Not sure who the lady in the first pic is - definitely not HM)

[APB]

Although there is some evidence that Prince Charles may have been circumcised, claims that this was because of some longer ‘tradition’ have been debunked as no more than an urban legend fuelled by wishful thinking on the part of pro-circumcision campaigners, British Israelites and credulous journalists.

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2158244013508960