Does San Francisco really have a “poop” problem or is it Conservative propaganda?

Just because the right says it, or even may be using the issue to score political points, doesn’t mean they are wrong about the facts in a particular case. The same is true about something the left says, or may be using to score political points.

I am not getting this- many homeless are mentally ill, but many are not. I would think if I was homeless I would still be a considerate individual and do that indiscreetly in a place that would both offer me some privacy and not require others to be inconvenienced by it, like behind a building, or in an alley? Why would a rational homeless person do this?

It’s definitely not true that everybody shits in the street. When I visited I saw a guy drop trou and take a dump in the storm drain.

If Fargo had nicer weather they would probably have a poop problem, too.

The ones under ground, which is most of them, because a bomb there would damage the tracks (or something). They are still locked. However, the ones at my station, on street level, are open.

Escalators stop working because they are clogged with human poop. I think consideration has left the building.

Not all of it, but SF is a toilet.

Why blame the public shitters rather than the “liberal” city department which failed to install free, self-cleaning-and-disinfecting public toilets everywhere, like in normal cities? I even thought I saw a couple of Parisian-style public johns in SF, but evidently they are doing something wrong.

I’ve walked all over San Francisco and haven’t noticed any poop, not even in the Mission District which had plenty of homeless. Didn’t go through any side streets though.
And I’ve been to the Orpheum plenty, walked all around the area when we saw Hamilton, and have not smelled any piss or seen any poop.
I did use one of the new portable bathrooms near Coit tower, and it was amazing. It has a timer to keep people from sleeping in there. There is one by one of the major BART stations but I’ve never tried it.

Kind of hit or miss of course. Here’s some comparisons to other cities. See the rising number of poop complaints for SF in figure 13 towards the bottom.

What do you mean? Clearly, they’re eating well.:smiley:

You know you’re having a good day in the Tenderloin when you step in some shit, look down and say, “Hey! It was dog shit! WooHOO!”

Yes it’s absolutely this bad. Anyone who has spent any time in the city will end up seeing all kinds of crazy stuff.

That’s a cool link. While I personally love the weather, not many people would say SF has “perfect weather.” Compared to NYC and Chicago, maybe.

How much time have you spent here? There seem to be a number of opinions contrary to yours.

As for the rising number of complaints, consider how our city’s population has changed in the past 20 years – more money, more entitlement, less willingness to just wrinkle their nose and walk by. I’m not saying that people shouldn’t complain, but I think the entitled are more likely to be outraged enough to make that call.

It’s not this bad at all. the only poop is the Bullshit about it.

I tend to take these news reports with a grain of salt. If you don’t live in Chicago, the national media will have you thinking that it is a non-stop gun battle. If you do live here, you realize that the vast majority of the violence is gang-on-gang warfare in two isolated neighborhoods and the rest of us don’t really worry about it much. I suspect it is the same in San Francisco with their poop problem.

Half the homeless I saw had dogs, so the problems might be related.
(insert holding one’s nose emoji here.)

They’re up there in number of murders, but they also have a large population, so they’re like #10 behind places like Cleveland and Kansas City, which I wouldn’t even expect to be top 10. So Chicago’s rate is more than 2.5x less than #1.

The statistics in that link are really interesting.

1.) The Poop complaints in New York and Chicago are highest in the winter, around March, but in San Francisco they’re worse in the fall. I think you can chalk that up to the significant differences in weather.

2.) In all three cities, complaints are worst at the beginning of the week, then decrease toward the end of the week. I have no idea why.

3.) Complaints by year are sort of random in Chicago, are clearly decreasing in New York. But in San Francisco they’re rising increasingly, almost exponentially. (The low stats for 2018 are only because they didn’t have complete figures for that year. I’ll bet by the end of the year they were higher than 2017).
So not only does San Francisco have an order of magnitude higher poop complaints than its nearest rival, New York, they are rising at an ever-increasing rate, while those in New York are declining. This seems to indicate that there really is a bigger problem in san Francisco than in other cities, and it’s getting worse. I don’t know why, although I suspect the astronomical housing prices have a lot to do with it.

This!