Does Sanders have appeal beyond white liberals

[Chronos]

And sometimes, the constraints of the Constitution act to prevent liberty.

[adaher]

No, it actually never does that.

[Chronos]

Tell that to Roger B. Taney.

[adaher]

As bad as that was, I’d prefer us to not be a country like France where you can be jailed for booing the national anthem.

BBC NEWS | Europe | French MPs pass tough anti-crime law

[BrainGlutton]

@adaher

That’s another way of saying the government must exist because it must exist. Whereas I say, and the founders say, that the purpose of government is to secure the blessings of liberty. The government exists as a means to an end, whereas you are arguing that the government is the end.

Government is a means to various legitimate ends, and not all of them are “liberty”; more have to do with “the general welfare.” You do not pay taxes to build and maintain roads because roads make you any freer in the sense of being freer from government interference.

[Ethilrist]

@Siam_Sam

Serious question I’d like to piggyback: His name is pronounced “Sanders” as in “Colonel Sanders,” right? Because the Brits on BBC keep pronouncing it “Saunders.” Or have I just been away from the US too long?

Darn those Brits and their adding extra “u”'s to words that doun’t need them. :mad:

[Chronos]

But soume wourds dou neeud theum.

[Siam_Sam]

@Ethilrist

Darn those Brits and their adding extra “u”'s to words that doun’t need them. :mad:

So it is pronounced Sanders and not Saunders. Thanks. I knew it!