Does the Peace Corps have a negative reputation abroad?

So, in the emergency room today (long story, but it involved my bicycle, 25 miles per hour, a wide left turn and a curb), I was talking with the RN who was treating my wounds. I mentioned I was considering the Peace Corps after graduation, and he gave me the biggest stink eye this side of the Gulf of Mexico. I am assuming he’s ‘not from around here’, as he had an accent, ‘general Latin American facial features’ (words I use with utmost caution), and a Spanish last name.

Whilst hobbling home, I pondered this exchange. Given the present international reputation of the United States of America, I would not be surprised if the Peace Corps were viewed a bit more negatively than the image I get from recruiters and returned volunteers. I am well aware that the Peace Corps isn’t all smiling children and grateful villagers (and I’m applying anyways). But just how is the Peace Corps viewed abroad by the recipient nations? As just another arm of American imperialism? As a way of sending silly college graduates who can’t otherwise get a decent job somewhere else for a while? Or is it just the occasional goof-up in a sea of good work?

I’m interested to hear people’s thoughts. My wife and I have toyed with the idea for awhile (can’t sell our house at the moment), and we’ve been to several presentations. The ‘veterans’ have all made it sound like their hosts treated them like gifts from god.

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I’d tend to be a bit :dubious: on hearing someone about to apply to the Peace Corps. In general, via people I’ve met and heard of, a majority of volunteers for pretty much any volunteer service are more in it to feel good about themselves–as a method to avoid having to correct their own flaws–than to do good in the world. They’ll tend to be condescending, power grabbing and manipulative, prefering to take the easy solution out for their assigned tasks (like doping up their patients), and trying to force their world view on their underlings/patients (forcing patients to be sociable/solitary/take up Christianity/etc. as they think needs be done even though not having any personal medical or other qualifications to be making such decisions.)

Well, not necessarily a majority, but rather the ones who stay and eventually rise in position. My friends, who were nice and caring people, eventually just couldn’t stay and keep doing the job since the other volunteers–much more than the job itself–were killing their souls.

I have no idea about the Peace Corps itself, though.

I’m confused - were you a PCV who ETed? (Early Terminated?) Or are you repeating second-hand stories? Because your experience does not sound at all like mine.

I have a hard time believing anyone would ET because of other volunteers, if only because most volunteers just don’t work that closely with any others. Usually, a volunteer is the only one in their village or small town. I can easily go for weeks and weeks without seeing another volunteer. There are some volunteers I don’t particlarly like, but since I hardly ever see them, it’s not really an issue. We each have our own assignments and rarely do group-type projects.

Second of all, volunteers don’t “rise in position”, so I’m not sure what you’re referring to. You have your job and you do it. People don’t get “promoted” in the Peace Corps, so it’s not like there lots of ways for there to be instutitional favoritism.

Incidentally, proseltyzing for ANY religion is grounds for administrative separation from Peace Corps. I seriously doubt anyone would insist that the people they work with adhere to Chrisitianity, unless they wanted a one-way ticket back to America, pronto.

There are, no doubt, people who join the Peace Corps to feel good about themselves. I doubt many of them stick with it very long. Being a PCV is an extremely frustrating job, and you have many many MANY more “WTF am I doing here?” moments than “WOW I’m so glad I’m here, I’m totally doing something useful!” moments. I can’t imagine that anyone who doesn’t have personal, selfish reasons for being here would stay with it for very long. My own personal reasons are what have kept me from saying “fuck this shit, I’m going home” a thousand times.

As for the OP’s question, I can only answer for Bulgaria, and from my experience, most Bulgarians aren’t even aware of the existence of Peace Corps. The Bulgarian phrase for Peace Corps has a rather military ring (well, it does in English, too, but Americans know it isn’t part of the army). and most volunteers don’t mention it when introducing themselves. I just tell people that I’m an English teacher. When I was in training, my host sister told me she’d never heard of Peace Corps til I came to live with her family - and then it turned out that she actually worked with a volunteer. (My host sister’s a social worker, the volunteer was working in an orphanage where my host sister often placed kids.) FWIW, we’ve been here for sixteen (seventeen?) years now.

I HAVE heard that there are rumors in Latin America that CIA agents pretending to be PCVs have fucked around in their countries, introduced cocaine production, etc…which may be the reason for this guy’s negative reaction.

Kyla
Primary TEFL Peace Corps Volunteer
Bulgaria 19 (2006-2008)

My Hungarian friends report that after The Wall came down, the university where they worked was infested with do-gooders from the US. One young lady had a mission of distributing condoms. My friend stapled his to his desk for emergencies.

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CIA (and military intelligence) will not touch PC with a ten-foot pole. If the locals want to believe whatever, it is hard to convince them elsewise.

Not much to say except that I also have heard those rumors. I would like to know if there is any evidence or in what they are based.

FWIW, most of the volunteers I know (granted, not many) participate out of a sincere desire to help those communities. And considering what I know about their politics, they would seem unlikely candidates for CIA agents (but them that would be an advantage, right? :wink: ).

No, that’s several second hand stories that are non-Peace Corps. As said, I know nothing about the Peace Corps itself. But like the doctor guy, I’d generally be suspicious of anyone who was volunteering for some sort of self-sacrificing group. It might be entirely different in the Peace Corps from what my friends encountered, which was in domestic social work and mental institutions. I don’t know, and of course I have no way of knowing whether the doctor fellow knew either.

I’ll also note that the way my friends described it, there wasn’t any official hierarchy which one could climb in their groups either. That doesn’t mean that people can’t very well assume it.

I have several close friends who have done a stint in PC and I wouldn’t question any of their motivations. That’s certainly not something I’ve associated with the organization.

It’s hard to put anything past the CIA, but officially, PCVs cannot have contact with ANY undercover-type agents. If you’ve ever worked for the CIA in any capacity at all, you cannot become a volunteer, and we are supposed to steer completely clear of any agents or their contacts in country. In staging (the initial orientation my group had in DC before we left for Bulgaria) we ran through a bunch of scenarios, and one of them was “what should you do if you find out that your new Host Country National boyfriend/girlfriend reveals that s/he is working for the DEA?” The correct answer was “several all contact immediately”.

We’re not allowed to comment on or participate in any host country politics. TPTB don’t want there to be any confusion about what we’re doing here. Does it happen anyway? I know it does - a guy in my group was accused of being a spy, which is kind of hilarious, since we tend not to be in places where there is anything worth spying on. (Although this guy lives right on the Serbian border. Maybe they think it’s a strategic point? For someone, somewhere?)

Oh, okay. Sorry if I came off as harsh.

I agree, actually - I’d be suspicious of the mental health of anyone who wanted to be a PCV ONLY to help other people. Yeah, a two-week stint in Guatemala with Habitat for Humanity? No problem. But volunteering to work abroad in what could (and probably will) be lousy conditions for over two years without personal goals in mind? No way. You’d have to be insane, or possibly very, very naive, to do it.

People in Cameroon fall on a “gifts from the gods” side of things.

There are enough Peace Corps volunteers here that most people have experience being taught by one, living near on, or working with one. This is often the only Westerner they have close contact, since the big NGOs tend to stay in the landcruisers and guarded compounds. Peace Corps is really the only organization (outside of missionaries) who send people to live in communities. And since Peace Corps volunteers are educated, generally young, and tend to be female, this tends to make a good impression on people. Peace Corps earns a lot of brownie points for America here- one smiling blonde high school teacher can overwhelm a lot of George Bushses.

Now and then I meet people who are on the “American imperialist” side of things, but mostly people tend to save that ire for the French.

I think you’d be surprised at the variety of people who join Peace Corps. I figured it’d be a bunch of hippy do-gooders. But no, there is everything- east coast society girls, midwestern farm kids, old men, dumb jocks, young republicans who bring their suits…it’s a fun and amazing bunch of people (though, as with everywhere, there are a few bad eggs here and there.)

I’ve known a number of Peace Corps volunteers here in Panama, and also visited communities where they worked. I’ve never heard anything said against them. I think people in remote communities may be a little bemused sometimes, but I think overall their image is quite positive.

I’m applying to the Peace Corps and I’ve never gotten a negative reaction when I tell someone. The worst was one guy who was ET’d because he was in Sierra Leone in the 90’s when shit went down and was still kind of pissed about it, but even he said “Hey, that was a long time ago, things might be different now. Hope it’s good for you.”

Yeah, I found it strange because I’ve gotten nothing but encouragement from the people I talked to about this. They all think it’s awesome as hell that I’m even applying. Of course, they’re all either my immediate family or my classmates; I figured there might be something to the RN’s reaction, since he may or may not’ve come from a nation where the Peace Corps was active, and may or may not’ve have had a view of the Peace Corps that my friends and family simply are unaware of.

Of course, he could have just been cranky and overworked dealing with chuckleheads like me on a day-to-day basis. I was bleeding all over the place, after all.

Well, either I was insane then or very, very naive then because I served two years in the Peace Corps in Micronesia and one in Nepal. I could have been both I suppose.

Hell, I loved it. It was the greatest adventure of my life. This coming from a guy who was in both Vietnam as a soldier and was in Israel for the Yom Kipper War.

What to say that somebody like Kyla would understand? I had never been outside the U.S. (other than Mexico and Canada) and I wasn’t ready to settle down and I had some skills that might be useful to somebody else. The Peace Corps had been invited in by the local Micronesian community so I decided to give it a try. Sure two week things are fine for band aid sort of responses but if you want to make a difference, it takes something of a committment and that takes time. I felt I had the time.

Yeah, If you live in a comfortable American-style house, the conditions were kind of lousy in both places, I guess, but they were great too. In Micronesia, I lived on an island a mile long by about 70 yards wide, in a thatch hut about 20 feet from a Pacific lagoon. I had no running water, no electricity and no natural gas. The only contact I had with the outside world was about ever four months when the copra boat came out. But for God’s sake, people write books about adventures like that. It was a once in a life-time time thing. And the islanders were great. They treated me like I was someone that belonged there, but just hadn’t been there yet. Together we rebuilt a school, I trained a couple of teachers for the school and I taught in the school, we built a water catchment system, and a typhoon proof medical dyspensery.

In Nepal it was much the same. I lived on the side of a mountain that climbed about 18,000 feet into the sky. Every morning when I arose I looked out on some of the most beautiful scenery in the world. Once again, the people were fantastic. I was adopted into a family and I would share their food and lodging. They and the whole village were great. My job in Nepal was to help with a fishery project that really seemed to help the locals.

You can question my mental health all you want, but really I had great experiences in both places. Sure, there were times that I was miserable, like when the temperture in Dunche Bazaar fell to -52 degrees and the insulation of the hut left a bit to be desired or when the typhoon hit Wottegai, and I was (and this is so true) tied to a breadfruit tree for safty. But Kyla you were probably sitting in a coffee bar someplace complaining about your latte or clubbing it somewhere complaining about the crowds. No comparison - I’ve got something to tell my grandchildren. What have you got? It used to be the grandkids didn’t believe the stories, but I got such a kick out of it when they asked their parents if it were really true what crazy Grandpa TV said, and their parents nodded.

About the reputation abroad of the Peace Corps - I have never been in a place in the third world where the locals did not think highly of the Peace Corps. Usually, when I mention that I was a Peace Corps Volunteer to someone in a village somewhere, it is an automatic invitation to dinner. Granted I don’t hang around the big cities much when I am overseas so I can’t speak to that. Also, I have not spent time in Latin America or Eastern Europe so I can’t speak to those locations.

I must be a real narcissistic schmuck for helping people in the US and elsewhere and not asking them pay for my time and expertise. Not to mention all the money I throw to science and charity that no one but me and my partner knows about. Boy, are we self-serving!

TV time, did you not know that Kyla is a currently serving PCV? She’s been in Bulgaria for nearly two years, IIRC. My understanding is that it’s been a rewarding experience for her.

She’s not saying that being a PCV is insane. She’s saying that becoming a PCV solely to help other people and with no other personal goals might give her doubts about that person.

TV time stands corrected and looks very foolishly sheepish. :smack:

Also, I hope you have as much fun with your stories and grandchildren as I do…

I was not a volunteer myself, nor do I play one on TV. However, in my life it has been my privilege to work with a variety of volunteers, from a variety of countries, in a variety of roles. (Along with the Peace Corps, there’s the JOCV volunteers from Japan, British volunteers, and Australian volunteers.) In particular, I have worked extensively with Peace Corps Volunteers, called PCVs. I have trained them, assisted them, designed programs for them, worked extensively as a consultant for Peace Corps Washington, employed PCVs when I ran various village-level development programs, written manuals for them, and hoisted a few beers as well. I have worked directly as a consultant for Peace Corps in Morocco, Liberia, Costa Rica, Senegal, Tonga, the Gambia, Papua New Guinea, Ecuador, Jamaica, Ponape, Fiji, Lesotho, and Togo.

In addition, my wife worked for three years as a Peace Corps Medical Officer, a job called in good government fashion the “PCMO”. PCVs these days are divided into two distinct groups. The first is the traditional just out of college folks. The other, which currently makes up a good percentage of PCVs, is retired people. The PCMO is the poor fool who is in charge of keeping gung-ho kids and out-of-their-element retired folks alive and healthy during their service. She also worked on short term (2-6 weeks) consultancies as a temporary PCMO in Tanzania, Vanuatu, Ponape, Mongolia, and the Marshall Islands. So I know literally hundreds of Peace Corps Volunteers.

All of the Volunteer programs run on the same idea. People sign up for a two or three year contract, to live somewhere and work with the people there. They are supported by the home government in various degrees, and typically get a stipend to live on. Living conditions are often (but not always) … mmm, let me call them “delightfully rustic” and let it go at that. None of the volunteers who have lasted have done it just to “feel good about themselves”. It’s hard to feel good about yourself when you are having yet another bout of illness in some leaf house a long way from nowhere, the rain is thundering down, the roof is leaking and it’s six hours walk to the nearest phone.

For me, this is the most supportive and effective and cost-effective foreign aid that we can give. It works much better when we send people to other countries than when we send wheat or loans or weapons. This is particularly true with regards to women volunteers, who have served as models of hope, strength, independence, and inspiration for generations of girls and young women around the world. Often, these girls have never met a woman making her way in the world on her own, with no father, husband, or brother to provide for her.

So to answer the OP in no uncertain terms, all of these official government supported long-term Volunteers are all admired, respected, and warmly welcomed into the lives to of the people that they live and work with. Babies are named after them, parties are thrown and people weep when they leave, often they marry locally and stay on. People know they are there to assist them, and they respect that.

Is this universal? Of course not, every organization has its share of charlatans, poseurs, and fools. They tend to be weeded out of Peace Corps pretty quickly, though, I’ve bounced more than one out myself at the training stage. Or they ET voluntarily after a few months in-country. And sometimes villages just don’t like the person, or they make some bad mistake early on, or the like. Finally, individuals may have any kind of personal disagreement with a Volunteer, and give the roll-eyes when they are mentioned. For example, a number of Latin men have the idea from movies and such that American women are incredibly sexually promiscuous. Often, they make inappropriate advances and get shut down fairly definitively, as women volunteers soon learn ways to stop that sh*t real fast. So, the guy may have meant that by his roll-eyes, who knows.

But by and large Volunteers in general, and PCVs in particular, have a very positive reputation abroad. I may become a PCV myself after I retire, the good lady and I have discussed it. I would recommend it without reservation for anyone of reasonable heath and even temperament. (I say even temperament because for someone who is used to efficiency and getting things done, the developing world can be incredibly frustrating.)

My best to all,

w.

No worries! And you bet I do. It’s been an amazing experience, and one I will always treasure…but I can’t say that I’m not looking forward to COS. Two and a half months to go! And then…MEXICAN FOOD.