You were complaining about them abusing their moderator status by ignoring the rules with impunity then being protected by fellow moderators.
They gang up as posters.
As posters.
If you said “That jsgoddess always attacks me and then the moderators don’t do anything about it” you are commenting on me AND the moderators.
As posters.
True, as posters, but you ALSO commented on their modding.
Please understand that people are trying to help you understand the rule here. No one is out to crucify you.
But I didn’t say, “the moderators don’t do anything about it.” Its irrelevant anyway; that comment received a mod note.
The warning was for the comment in the OP. Because conditional clauses aren’t conditional, or something like that.
“Posters.” You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
It’s completely relevant. You made a complaint about moderation (despite your protestations), therefore the conditional clause was true.
You do more than say they don’t do anything about it. You say that they HELP each other get away with breaking the rules.
You said, paraphrased “Those people break the rules, and then their friends help them get away with it. Those people are mods and their friends are mods.”
Being a mod is the only way they can do any of this alleged chestnut pulling. If you accused me of nefarious doings, then said that TroutMan and John Mace were pulling my chestnuts out of the fire, it would not make sense because TroutMan and John Mace do not have the power to pull anyone’s chestnuts out of the fire.
So, when their mod buddies are pulling their chestnuts out of the fire, are they doing it purely by posting as regular people, or are they doing it with Mod Notes and Mod Warnings?
If the former, then you’re saying that there are a bunch of people posting here who gang up on you when they disagree with you. That’s allowed.
If the latter, they are not posting as posters, no matter how many times you say it.
In any case, only one mod was in the thread, right? So you couldn’t have been complaining about the two who weren’t as posters.
You’re new here so you may not realize that many, many people have complained about moderators and modding. It’s pretty much a board sport. So when every poster disagrees with your take on things, you can assume you, not a mod or the mods, are wrong.
Again, where are these examples of Mods breaking the rules? Where are the examples of rule-breaking moderators getting “saved” by other Mods?
I have never seen such a thing.
I think we can safely say that the horse has been led to water. Whether he chooses to drink or not is completely up to him. Our work is done.
Except maybe that guy over there dressed as Pontius Pilate.
The contortions you have to put my words through to find a mod complaint demonstrate how innocuous the comments were.
Yeah, “pulling chestnuts…” is a vicious attack on the mods IF it means “maniacally abuse their fascistic mod powers,” but it’s no attack on moderating as I used it to mean they gang up as posters.
Moreover, I don’t think every reference to moderating constitutes a “complaint” that has to be brought to ATMB. If I write, " the mods never ban the right people, anyway," it’s clear from this thread that people would freak out about how that constitutes a “complaint.” It doesn’t. It’s my opinion. It’s not a request for further discussion, or action, or resolution.
Similarly, my comment to tomndebb was not introducing some new topic of conversation (a hijack) or asking for any action, clarification, or resolution; it was an explanation TO HIM of why I wasn’t discussing the topic with him.
So have you been enjoying your time at the SDMB so far, Grotonian? You weren’t by any chance court ordered to attend these meetings were you?
Too soon, the cry of aaohoahowka will resound over the countryside.
We’re still going to need 2 thieves though.
Looks to me like those contortions were an attempt to help you understand the situation. Much simpler explanations were given but you didn’t seem to follow the logic.
It’s definitely a criticism
I agree with you here. If you were commenting on the mechanics of moderation (example, " I think the mods might move this thread to another forum") but if you are criticizing how the mods are acting you should bring it here. You could have easily stated in the other thread that you addressed a mod issue in ATMB.
It is a criticism which is understandably seen as a complaint.
I haven’t found an opinion is this thread that agrees with yours. That could be a clue.
Just because you shut the door after criticizing, doesn’t mean that it’s not criticism.
And that explanation was a criticism of the moderators. You could have said - “Tom, I’m addressing this issue in ATMB” and then criticized him the moderators, the rules etc to your heart’s content in this forum.