So did Mitt Romney. The Bidness School has the name but not quite the same rep.
For or against. The five Harvard grads would “obviously” be against her. She’d have her work cut out I’d say.
A friend likes to point out that this was after applying and being rejected by the law school at the University of Texas.
Some other notables who went to Yale:
Murray Gell-Mann
Paul Krugman
Ernest Lawrence
Sinclair Lewis
Charles Ives
Thornton Wilder
Bob Woodward
Grace Hopper
Samuel Morse
Dr. Benjamin Spock
Eli Whitney
Mitch Kapor
Aaron Burr
Alan Dershowitz
Henry Louis Gates, Jr.
Jerry Brown
William F. Buckley
Fareed Zakaria
Nathan Hale
Janet Yellen
Maya Lin
Eero Saarinen
James Fenimore Cooper
Noah Webster
Tom Wolfe
Cole Porter
Theo Epstein
Anderson Cooper
There are also people in show business who went to Yale:
Angela Bassett
Jennifer Connelly
Claire Danes
James Franco
Paul Giamatti
Elia Kazan
Frances McDormand
Paul Newman
Edward Norton
Lupita Nyong’o
Vincent Price
Gene Siskel
Oliver Stone
Meryl Streep
John Tuturro
Sam Waterston
Sigourney Weaver
Lewis Black
Dick Cavett
David Duchovny
Sara Gilbert
Chris Noth
David Hyde Pierce
Tony Shaloub
Nah. When I was looking at colleges, UPenn was described as the “ugly duckling of the Ivy League” 
And we Tigers rise above it all. 
I am told by my wife (Harvard College/Harvard Law) that when Harvard played Yale (in football), the Harvard section of the stadium would chant “safety school” at the Yale section. She said it *really *pissed them off.
The Trade School of the Ivies - first B-School, Nursing, Medical Schools, etc.; a bit scrappier.
My son goes there.
Well what do you expect from a second-rate state school :).
I kid, the University of Pennsylvania is a private school but a lot of people assume otherwise just because of the name. A large percentage of people don’t understand what the Ivy League is at all. It is fundamentally just a sports conference of exactly 8 East Coast schools that don’t offer athletic scholarships. They all happen to be old and prestigious but they were that way before the Ivy League was formed.
They also aren’t the absolute best academically especially when you break it down by department but it is also true overall for some. Harvard doesn’t even have the most prestigious math and science departments in its own neighborhood, let alone the country or the world. MIT, a non-Ivy League school, beats it in many of those subjects. Caltech does as well.
Stanford, Duke and several other non-Ivy League schools are generally ranked higher overall than some of the Ivy League schools.
For reference, here is a list of Ivy League schools. This is all there has ever been and all there ever will be. The conference isn’t an award.
- Harvard
- Princeton
- Yale
- Columbia
- University of Pennsylvania
- Cornell
- Dartmouth
- Brown
The first 3 or 4 are what most people think of when they think of the “Ivy League” and they are the most prestigious in terms of general name recognition. I personally don’t think Cornell is the least prestigious of the bunch. I attended Dartmouth (aka “The forgotten Ivy”) and I was going to say it is the most obscure one because it is the smallest and most rural but that may not be true. I typed that list from memory and initially forgot Brown like I always do even though it is only about half an hour from here. It is a great school but has a different educational model than the rest and tends to get greatly overshadowed by Harvard and MIT even within in the greater Boston/Providence, RI area. Many people don’t know much about it at all.
I prefer the US News rankings
- Princeton
- Harvard
- (Chicago - my safety school) tied with Yale
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
But I have to admit folks refer to “HYP” so maybe that is the traditional order. The Big Three, baby! Big Three (colleges) - Wikipedia
Mr Quatro writes:
> It’s just that so many people seem to look down on Yale grads and look up to Harvard
> ones.
What are you talking about? I have never heard anything remotely like that. To most people, Harvard and Yale are both top universities, as good as any in the U.S… If anything, it’s a number of small colleges which are very selective and yet surprisingly little known which are underrated. For instance, consider my undergraduate school, New College. Here’s a list of all alumni who are even modestly well known. This may seem like a small number, but remember that New College has had only a little more than 5,000 graduates since it graduated its first class in 1967, which means about 100 students graduate each year. 5,000 graduates is vastly less than Yale or Harvard, and yet New College has a reasonably number of significant alumni:
And there are many such top small colleges around the U.S. The notion that the number of very good undergraduate institutions in the U.S. is rather small is clearly wrong. The U.S. has a lot of worthy undergraduate colleges.
I am so tired of these judges bringing their Jupiter and Juno into the courtroom. :mad:
Very true. In many of the STEM areas, I’d rate MIT, Stanford, and Caltech higher than the Ivy Leagues.
Marksmanship has always been one of Yale’s strong suits.
Well, Thurston Howell III’s favorite insult was: “He must be a Yale man!”
His dad was President of Yale.
I can’t say I understand the question myself. Yale is incredibly prestigious.
If you want to go for stereotypes in the modern era, Yale produces Presidents and other high-profile government officials (ever hear of Skull and Bones?). Princeton and Cornell are the truly hard ones academically. The hardest thing about Harvard is getting in but even slacker drop-outs like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg can still make ends meet even if they can’t stick with the classes. It also literally has more money than many countries so they can just buy whatever or whoever they want.
All of that is greatly oversimplified of course. Wendell Wagner is correct though. One thing the U.S. excels in is undergraduate and graduate education. It may not be cheap but there are so many great schools that it is hard to keep track of even the top 100 out of the 3000+ that exist. If you look at the U.S. News rankings, almost all of the top 100 are well known and respected and Yale is near the top of that list. All of them have famous alumni with Yale being near the top yet again.
I am not sure why anyone would ever believe otherwise.
Bill. Clinton. Was. There…!
Four Talented Actresses.
Some elected Bushes.
Justice Sonia Sotomayor…
…and a Traffic Jam for Nothing on I-95…!
Does SD have Yale or Harvard grads?
Yes, there are some but I am not sure how active they are. There are active MIT and Stanford grads around, which, as I noted, are more prestigious than Harvard or Yale grads in their respective fields. I went to an Ivy League school myself (Dartmouth) and I used to work right next to Harvard and MIT. I trampled across both campuses every day during lunch. Harvard is nice enough but Dartmouth is much prettier.
The SDMB has examples of almost anything you can imagine but I can’t quite figure out what you are getting at. I live in the Boston area and know many Harvard grads. They range from everything from very wealthy investment bankers to dysfunctional screwups that can barely hold a job. They are all very academically smart but that doesn’t always translate into life success.
The dirty little secret is that Harvard, Princeton, Yale and similar schools aren’t any better at providing an undergraduate education than many other schools. They really aren’t about teaching at all at least at the undergraduate level. They use the same books in most cases and the grading is generally very generous (when I was a TA at Dartmouth, the rule was that half the class got an A and the other half got a B; anything less than that was unthinkable because these were all brilliant students after all even if they barely showed up).
The statistical trick is that they take people that are highly intelligent and ambitious, mix them in with other students that come from very wealthy families (like the Bushes or Kennedys) and stand back to let the fireworks start even if it takes a few years. You get more wealthy alumni that donate a lot of money and the cycle starts all over again. It has almost nothing to do with the classes. It is about matching up the “right” type of people and, admittedly, it works extremely well in many cases even if the people in question never graduate at all.