Exactly.
Impeachment means you lose your job and aren’t eligible for rehire, nothing more.
Exactly.
Impeachment means you lose your job and aren’t eligible for rehire, nothing more.
Judge Tanya S. Chutkan is imposing a gag order on former president Donald Trump in advance of his election interference trial, as requested by special counsel Jack Smith…
She declined to restrict any comments disparaging the city of Washington, D.C., the Biden administration and the Justice Department as biased or politically motivated. But she is prohibiting all parties from statements “publicly targeting” the special counsel, his staff, her staff or “any other court personnel.” Statements about their families are “absolutely prohibited as well.”He “certainly can argue that this prosecution is politically motivated,” she said, but he cannot call the prosecutor “a thug” or “vilify and implicitly encourage violence against public servants who are simply doing their jobs.”
She is also barring Trump and all parties from making statements about witnesses in the case.
“He does not have the right to say and do exactly what he pleases. Do you agree with that?” she asked Trump attorney John Lauro, who responded: “100%.”
This is really going to piss off Trump.
About time!
Welcome news! I’m glad it was a narrow order about vilifying and threatening the prosecution and witnesses and not a blanket order about speaking about the case. He admits to so much when he thinks he’s making a point about his innocence.
God damn. He’s headed for jail.
Of course, Trump will spin it as a blanket order about speaking about the case. He’ll lie and lie and lie and lie about that.
Breitbart is already doing that for him.
Ahh…but just precisely how much time?
It’s been over 60 minutes already since the judge imposed the gag order.
And, yes. folks, believe it or not…Trump has not yet posted anything in all caps.
Should we start a special betting pool, with everybody offering guesses as to how much longer it will be till Trump posts something that violates the order?
Also-- (serious question)
Even when Trump does post something threatening which the judge rules as a violation…is there any realistic punishment that Chulkan will give him?
A fine (maybe a thousand dollars?) would be a joke, and jail time ain’t gonna happen. What other options are there?
I’m pretty positive that is against the rules…
I’m not sure why jail time wouldn’t happen. The judge has been very clear that Trump will be treated like any other defendant. The fact that it’d be unprecedented doesn’t matter: this whole dumpster fire is unprecedented.
sorry, I forgot to add the [/sarcasm] tag
Well, she’s already told him that if she finds that he is tainting the jury pool with his antics that she might be forced to move the trial date up to minimize his inference…
Picturing a teenager arguing with dad about punishment.
Why not jail time?
And Marcos jr was fined $353Million. Even trump cant fleece his sheeples that much.
My WAG about Chutkan’s thought process.
A: Trump is almost certainly going to lose this case. The evidence is overwhelming.
B: It is of paramount importance that this trial happen before the election, because of the whole ‘fate of democracy’ thing.
C: It’s patently obvious at this point that his court strategies are (1) delay through any means necessary and (2) appeal literally everything
D: Letting Trump show his ass in the court of public opinion won’t actually prevent the trial from happening, but
E: Doing something wildly unprecedented like ordering him to jail may be one of the few things that makes a higher court say, “well, sure, let’s grant an emergency stay and schedule a hearing.”
So you err on the side of not inviting other judicial entities into your kitchen, keep the machinery of justice running, and try not to think too hard about stochastic terrorism.
Though this is all predicated on an assumption I’m making: if Trump is sent to jail for contempt of court and successfully gets a stay on the order, would that bring the rest of the case to a halt or would everything else keep ticking along?
Trump’s already testing how hot the water is…
“And I said ‘Promise?’”
I am no legal expert, but I see no reason why it would halt the rest of the case. It may not even be possible to appeal it immediately, depending on whether the finding was of criminal contempt or civil contempt. (I’m not up to untangling which would be in play for violating a gag order.)
Trump will appeal any order Chutkan makes in this instance. He has to, because if he doesn’t, he waives his right to appeal the issue at a later time. That will put the proceedings on hold until the appeals process is complete.
However, the DC circuit isn’t going to take their time on this ruling – I would expect an answer within a couple weeks – and even the SCOTUS is turning Trump’s appeals around quite fast.
This one may take a little longer, because what he’s actually seeking from the court is an order in uncharted waters for special status to say whatever irresponsible, evil thing he wants because he’s a candidate for president. That would open a big ol’ can of worms if SCOTUS were to grant such privilege. You’d have to extend that right to any other presidential candidate going forward. I don’t believe they will.