No it means deliberate, reckless and/or negligent deaths as a result of poor public policy.
No it means deliberately killing millions of people.
“Millions”? Then your own upthread example of Samuel Little doesn’t even qualify as a mass murderer.
It’s not just that you aren’t willing to recognize that there can be two different meanings of a term like “mass murderer”, it’s that you don’t even seem clear about what your own preferred meaning of the term is.
Trump is a mass murderer the same way Charles Manson is a mass murderer.
I don’t even think there are two different definitions.
I mean there are multiple definitions of murder - one involves deliberately killing someone and another involves someone dying due to your reckless disregard for human life. But mass murder is just those (plus some other possibilities) scaled up.
Mass murderer in the context of this thread is a politically charged word by people who do not like Trump.
No it isn’t because he himself has admitted to his reckless disregard for human life. It’s just the textbook definition of mass murder.
Do you have the same objection to the use of the term in the case of Nixon, or Kissinger, or Andrew Jackson?
Honestly, calling a politician a “mass murderer” because their policies wantonly or recklessly caused many thousands of deaths is not something that Trump-haters just made up.
Trump did not order the deaths of 400000 people. He did not murder 400000 people.
No, he is responsible for the deaths of a significant percentage of that figure. Do, please try to keep up.
I can almost hear it now: “I’m a good Mass Murderer. I know more about Mass Murder than anyone. You know, I’m America’s Best Mass Murderer.”
I think this everytime I read this thread.
I think he’s the only President who’s ever joked about murdering somebody.
Let’s not count Trump out yet. Sure he may have only killed a few hundred thousand people with his pandemic policies. But he might end up killing billions of people with his climate change policy.
Well, other Presidents actually have murdered someone.
Which ones besides Jackson?
I don’t feel Cleveland or the various Presidents who served in combat would qualify as murderers.
And my point was that it says something bad about Trump’s character that he made a joke about murdering somebody. Of course he also made jokes about raping women.
President Andrew Jackson nearly died in a duel when he killed his opponent, a fellow plantation owner.
I guess it depends on your definition of murder. Ronald Reagan’s,
“My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.”
might fit the bill.
The surprising thing is that Jackson fought over a hundred duels - and only killed one opponent. And of course he survived all of those duels.
Apparently a lot of people got shot in duels (Jackson was shot numerous times) but relatively few people actually died. This certainly wasn’t due to the medicine of the era. So I guess guns didn’t work very well back then.
Dueling pistols back then had massive caliber bullets/balls compared to modern firearms. Even if they weren’t being propelled very well due to the poor quality of gunpowder, they had enough mass to cause grievous wounds, not unlike being shot by a .45 these days. I suspect that surviving a duel had less to do with the shot not doing much damage, but rather with the shot not hitting you at all.
Mass negligent homicide?