Donald Trump is now a birther

If it makes you feel better, my opinion of you isn’t informed by your stance on Birtherism in the least.

That was classic Starkers, but this…

…is going into his Greatest Hits, Vol. 1

Since you know what the birthers think is not true and they fail to learn anything after explaining the facts again and again…

**What **intelligence are you defending?

Wait! Wait! I didn’t say anything about how much you guys fucked up the schools and ruined the economy and are trying to turn us into a nation of dependent nanny-state weiners.

I have shown your lie. I know it, you know it, and everybody else knows it. Your transparent denial does nothing to conceal your pants on fire. Go back to bed, you pathetic pill-popper.

I’m not eager to label you a birther. I’m not calling you a liar. I’m telling you that you are wrong and that you are an idiot. I’m telling you that holding any citizen to a higher standard of proof of citizenship because a few crazy people that have a problem with the concept of reality is fucked up.

So just in case I wasn’t clear. You’re wrong. The questions aren’t reasonable or logical as they have been fucking answered already. Since you think they are reasonable and are taking the word of whackadoos over pretty much the rest of the planet, you’re a fucking idiot.

I hope that clarifies things for you, you mouthbreathing moron.

I don’t suppose it occurs to you guys that by resorting to unsubstantiated claims that the questions and observations I post are wrong, and resorting to calling me names based upon the frustration you obviously feel at not being able to refute them, just makes you look childish and desperate. :smiley:

The reason Obama has been called upon to prove his citizenship where no one else has is because of time he spent in Kenya as a child and because right or wrong his grandmother has been quoted as saying he was born there. Questions arise further because of mysteries surrounding his original certificate of live birth in Hawaii, its location and content.

Frankly, you have to consider that conservatives don’t trust liberals. They even think liberals might lie or engage in chicanery if it profits them to do so. In fact, they definately think that. So they want more than mere liberal assurances that everything is on the up and up, and they’re less likely to accept certain things as incontrovertible proof, should it benefit the liberal contingent, than are their liberal counterparts.

Again, this is not how I necessarily feel in regard to this issue. It’s merely my take on what I have been able to gather are the concerns and questions of some of the the nation’s populace with regard to this issue. If you want to go ahead and pretend that I’m a birther or that I’m defending birthers, then go ahead and knock yourselves out. The reality is that I’m only trying to fight ignorance and explain the apparently perplexing reasons why honest and intelligent people can have questions regarding Obama’s background and original birth certificate without it necessarily making them “birthers”, who I agree are cynically making an issue of the subject primarily for political purposes.

No. You’re wrong. You’re just too stupid to admit it. And calling someone childish and desperate is name calling. By the same standards that every other person in America is held to, Obama is an american citizen. You and your little buddies want extra special proof. Not going to happen. Just because you will not admit that the matter is settled doesn’t mean that it is not settled.

The reason he has been called upon to provide double super secret proof of citizenship is because an insignificant part of the population can’t believe that their side lost without the other side cheating. Or they’re racist. Or stupid. Possibly all three. Which one are you?

If political party matters so much to them that they will not trust anyone that identifies as a liberal, they should have their heads examined…or simply removed. They should at least not be allowed near children to prevent their insane views on life from spreading.

You’re not fighting ignorance. You’re choosing ignorance, and so are they. You’re putting your empty little head in the sand and choosing to pretend that reality doesn’t exist because it makes you feel special. Good luck with that.

Nope, like I said before, I don’t give a shit. Obama is the president and that’s that. I’m fine with it just like I thought liberals whingebags should be fine with the Supreme Court’s decision on the the 2000 election and GWB’s subsequent legal status to serve as president. I just get tired of liberal douchebags calling people morons for no reason other than that they disagree with them.

And now it’s time for me to pop a pill. Goodnight, Harbor. Goodnight, Fear. Y’all have a good day now, y’hear?

And I get tired of partisan fuckheads making excuses, handwaving, tu quoque arguments, and aiding conspiracy bullshit rather than make the effort to correct the people on their own side who are making unbelievably idiotic errors that will cost them.

This is another lie. Obama did not spend time in Kenya as a child. The first time he visited Kenya was after his father died in 1982.

Liar.

Commentary would be superfluous if the SDMB allowed posts consisting only of quotes.

All three of these statements are factually incorrect. Obama never went to Kenya until he was an adult. His grandmother was never quoted as saying he was born in Kenya (she actually said emphatically that he was born in Hawaii), and there are no “mysteries” surrounding his birth certificate in Hawaii.

“I love it when a plan comes together… bwah ha, haaa!”

But you are defending birthers. In fact, in the very same paragraph in which made that made statement, you go on to defend them again.

Tell us, just what the fuck do you think a birther is?

So the conservatives have a world view that is based on suspicion of others, black and white (us versus them) thinking and clearly a large measure of projection ("I would certainly engage in chicanery to reach my goals, so the “other side” must do the same).

I think you have explained a lot with this.

Oh, and just to make it clear,

That you continue to be “just asking questions” about these proven facts shows that you are either trolling to get a reaction or are somehow immune to logic.

Always forgotten in that is Barack Hussein Obama II’s father is Barack Hussein Obama Sr.. So there’s always the possibility she didn’t realize which Barack was being referred to.

Noting that, according to Wikipedia, Barack Obama was born in the Rachuonyo District, on the shores of Lake Victoria just outside Kendu Bay, Kenya Colony and not Mombasa. The question must be asked, why is Barack Obama’s birthplace a mystery and is Wikipedia part of the cover-up?

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CMC fnord!
'Course when The Truth™ about O’s real Dad, Jimi Hendrix :eek:, finally comes out all these questions will be moot!

Have the circumstances regarding Glenn Beck and that woman he is alleged to have killed in the 70s ever been cleared up?

She was quoted as saying that…by dishonest shitstains and psychopaths.

Never. And it would be so easy for him to put that issue to est. It’s strange that he’s avoided it so long. I heard Glenn Beck has spent $50 million to cover this thing up.