When people contradict themselves, you have to ignore at least some of their statements.
And don’t tell me you think Rudy Giuliani believes every word that comes out of his own mouth.
Really? Which ones? Shayna wants you to state the particular algorithm which guides you to the “real” thinking there…
Indeed, I wait with bated breath.
I already explained it.
I think Rudy believes every single word that comes out of his mouth. As he says them. I don’t think he sees any contradiction at all.
For me, you don’t attack things that you genuinely support, even to take a shot at an opponent. It doesn’t make sense. And I don’t think it would even occur to normal people to go there. Who says, “Well, I really support community organizing but I will attack it this time.”
It would be like me attacking someone for being pro-choice.
On the other hand, when you just pay lip-service to something, when you never respected it in the first place or your respect is conditional at best, that’s when these sorts of attacks start coming out of people’s mouths. The Michael Richards Effect.
Who looks at a resume that includes community organizing and says, “Ooh, this is where we’ll get him”? People who don’t respect community organization and think it’s foolish, that’s who.
Fuck political expediency.
When have they not sneered at virtually everyone. Hell, before he needed the right wing fundamentalists, McCain sneered at them too.
Republicans are just better than the rest of us, despite the fact that McCain and Palin have never held private sector jobs, never met a payroll not funded by taxpayers, never did well in school, and never put their own families before their own personal ambitions. Just ask John McCain’s first wife, Cindy’s sister, Bristol Palin. But they would like to protect your family.
Government is supposed to protect and help those that cannot help themselves.
The sooner the US looks like Thunder Dome the happier conservatives will be.
It’s possible. It’s also possible that for some conservatives, the word organizer still evokes memories of meddling unionists like Walter Reuther and César Chavez.
Perfectly con-safe charity I assume would happen through the White churches, accompanied by a hefty dollop of preaching and a certain judgmentalism, all well aligned with the doctrine of Personal Responsibility First.
Community Organizers Fight Back
I love it! They are too stupid to have realized how horribly this was going to backfire right in their faces.
Did you read the comments on that blog? I’m not religious, but I loved this one:
Might not be such a good thing if Sarah Palin starts thinking, “You mean I can have him put to death?”
And yet, the GOP (as an organization, not necessarily the entirity of its membership) thinks that while government is bad, they all must be in charge of it, or things will go horribly wrong. This raises the question: Why do people who think that the government is evil, want so much to do with it? Seems to me, the smart thing to do, would be to stay away from it completely.
Its sort of like those bumper stickers that say, “I love my country, but fear my government” given that the government is made up of “we, the people, of these United States,” doesn’t that mean that they are afraid of themselves?
My view is sort of like this, but not exactly. It’s not precisely that they want these people to suffer in the margins; it’s that they are laughing at anybody who thinks that they can be helped in the first place. “Seriously? You want to try to drag those poor lazy Negroes (or whoever) out of the ghetto? Sure, knock yourself out, see how far you get, since you apparently haven’t learned anything from the last few decades of wasted effort, haw haw haw.” It’s just as sociopathic, but it comes from a different place, I think.
One right wing blogger was going about the majesty that is Palin and said something like “Obama was a community organizer…whatever that means.” I responded by saying, “One example of a community organizing group would be the Christian Coalition.”
Oddly, he didn’t respond to me.
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Now why did the Right start attacking being a community organizer?
Oh yeah, when the Left slammed being a small-town mayor.
Carry on with your ranting.
Here’s the other side of the whole “community organizer” thing.
Red staters and middle class blue staters don’t know what a community organizer does because in those areas, they’re called “Congressman” or representatives. They’re the folks you go to when you have a problem the government might be able to help with.
However, if you live in a democratic area like Chicago with a machine so corrupt that real elections are impossible and the government exists only to line the pockets of contributors, you need a community organizer. They don’t replace the machine with anything better, nor do they want to. They work for and shill for the machine and, in return, they get the machine to toss the people they’re agitating for some scraps. This a) keeps the people in their “rightful” (according to party politics) place and b) makes them feel grateful for their machine’s boot on their collective chests.
Basically, Obama is basing his run for the highest office in government on his belief that democratic change is impossible.
“The last thing we need is for Republican officials to mock us on television when we’re trying to rebuild the neighborhoods they have destroyed."
That’s a great line, but if it’s the Republican’s fault, how come only places run by corrupt democratic party politics need community organizers?
Cite for the left slamming being a small town mayor?