Pokerroom is about the only place I haven’t played yet, but if what you say is true about the guy, the best thing you can do is:
You got a few bad beats in there, but in the long run you know he will pay you off. Once he does, feel free to turn the chat back on 
Yikes. In time you’ll learn why that statement is a huge, huge mistake if you keep playing, but everyone has a point in their poker development when they think that.
I hope you didn’t try to educate the guy. I see this all too frequently from new players, and to be honest, did it myself before I learned better. Don’t tell him that his behavior is stupid, no matter how frustrated you are. You don’t want to have him take your words to heart and actually try to improve himself, do you?
So many decent new players get offended when their good cards get beat by crap and then ridicule the guy for playing it. I understand why, but it’s very stupid and unfortunate. Bad players should be encouraged to keep playing badly, not encouraged to better themselves.
I have no idea why I put asterisks around “so”. My brain has been malfunctioning lately.
Otto take comfort in the wisdom that the worst thing that can happen to a bad poker player is a streak of good luck.
OK, I’m feeling better. Some other dumbass decided to lecture me for a minute today. The board was showing a full house, 2s full of 4s, and I held a 4. It had been checked to the river and a guy puts in a big bet all in. I figure he’s either playing a 4 or the board so I call it, and he has the 4th 2. Oh well, I wouldn’t do anything different. Dumbass who folded decides to start crowing about how smart he is for folding.
So over the next three or four hands I extracted from dumbass all the money he had at the table and he went away.
Heh.
This is the nub. I once got a 7-3 offsuit, and of course I folded it preflop. The flop was 7-3-7. Yeah, it hurt, but what are you going to do? Start playing hands like 7-3 offsuit on the off chance that they turn into something good? Obviously not. You keep your head down, keep playing the way you know is right, and you keep turning a profit.
Well see, that’s exactly it, these nitwits play stuff like 7-3 os because it doesn’t cost them a lot to play it, then they get lucky. It happens. It seems to happen to me more often than statistics would dictate, but I could very well be remembering the bad beats more than the wins. What pisses me off is when the nitwits start thinking that’s good play and start talking smack about it.
If I could afford to move up to higher blinds I would. My feeling is that even a small bump in the minimums would have the effect of weeding people like this out.
Yeah there are sometimes where cards happen and you just have to accept that it will cost you money. That’s a tough hand to fold, I couldn’t. I’m not sure I’d want to be able to though, the implication then is that people know they can bet you off any hand bar the absolute nuts.
Otto-
I’m “on the bubble” 
so I can’t say much lest I get DB’d out…
Suffice it to say, that the only way to defeat the fucking idiot fucking motherfucking motherfuckers who do this to US, is to tighten up.
I agree that it’s less fun to tighten up.
But you will never steal a pot from a “call station”. You will flop the nut boat and this jerk will call with seven deuce off suit and hit four deuces on the river.
I KNOW you weren’t bluffing… the other guy was. But he sucked out time after time after time.
The only consolation we have is that these idiots usually give us all of their money.
When you encounter this typical FISH online… (and you will)… the only reactive measure is to tighten up and hit him when you flop the nuts. Don’t play HIS GAME.
Cheers, and good luck. I’m sure you’ve read this thread, but for the newbies… there’s the link…
FWIW, I’ve found Party Poker to be the easiest to beat. They have the most idiots who will call to the end with nothing but a 5 to 1 flush draw, then bluff into you when they miss it. And YOU’LL know.
But they will also suck out on you maybe 1/4 the time… the key is to keep a sizable enough bankroll to weather the storm of idiots.
And if not, try PokerStars.com… Much harder to beat (for me at least, at least in the NL holdem cash games above $.50/$1)… but at least there are less idiots and Real Strategy works.
Otherwise, play with the idiots, but tighten up like you never believed. Fold the AJo to any raise. Fold the QQ to the reraise… maybe… sometimes…
See what I mean? Just tighten the fuck up and maintain the bankroll, and these idiots can’t hurt you as much.
4/5 of the time, you’ll bust THEM.
well shit i just read that very last part and i was too right… fourth two… weather the storm baby.
GL
That’s definitely it. Everyone thinks it happens more often to them than to anyone else, but then you look at your chips and realize that no matter what, you still have more than you brought to the table.
But you want them in the game. They’re paying you money in the long run.
YEP.
Pokerstars.com (no affiliation) has a penny/two penny game… nickel/dime…dime/quarter… etc…
The lower games are SOOOO much easier to beat because of the idiots who play at those levels. But you have move up graduallly, or skip these games altogether, because it’s NOT LIKE a REAL GAME…
When there’s $20 riding, you’ll find a lot less idiots chasing an inside straight, or calling a pot-sized bet on a flush draw.
AGAIN: bankroll is key
Otto, you will never find a game as easy to beat as the one you have described here.
What you’re saying here about moving up to a bigger table is a VERY common sentiment and its also completely WRONG.
You don’t win money from people who don’t make mistakes. And you think you’re going to win money in a higher limit game where people make FEWER mistakes.
If you’re not winning money in games like the one you described then
You don’t know how to make poor hands pay you.
You don’t know how to avoid paying extra bets with a losing hand.
You don’t understand the natural swings of a bankroll.
You’re playing on tilt.
But what it really boils down to is that you don’t know where profits come from in poker.
Low limit games require different strategy to play in than upper limit games. You need to alter your starting hands and the manner in which you play them. If you aren’t making these on-the-fly decisions as the character of the table changes then you aren’t ready to move up to bigger games.
If it makes you feel any better, yesterday I dropped around $4k at 30/60, about half of it with some nutty beats like KK vs K3 on an 8733 board, and JJ vs J2 on a T622 board.
It’s also important to take into account the effect of Poker’s popularity explosion. Three years ago, you might have one drunken idiot. No problem. Easy money. He can chase all he wants, he really won’t get lucky all that often.
When there’s five of them at a table, though, all calling like mad, then the odds are that ONE of them will get lucky and flop something. It’ll be a different one every time, but it’s still not you.
As has been said: I think tightening up is the way to go. Resist the temptation to steal pots, since no one can take a hint. When you do hit, there will be a massive pot, and you can clean up. And let the fish keep talking.
Okay, since we’re sharing newbie stories…
Sunday night I was in a brick and mortar tournament with about 80 players. I was having a terrible run from the start and was getting pretty low when I finally caught a break. I’m holding A 4, flop came up 4 7 Q. Everyone checked. Turn was A (no flush potential). I checked, and the newbie (who was dealing) raised 1000, and I had him pegged for aces. I went in with my remaining 2900. I figured he wouldn’t risk half his stack unless he had two pair or better. He called and flipped over A 5. Here’s where it gets funny - newbie forgets to burn a card, flips over a 5, and shouts out a very loud “OH YEAH!” - before we can all tell him that was the burn card. Embarrased, he flips over the"real" river card, which, of course, is also a 5. Talk about insult to injury.
Also, I think it takes balls to lecture Otto on poker in a thread titled “Don’t fucking lecture me on poker, dick!” 
Pash
Naw, I’m always happy to get good advice from people who have some idea of what they’re talking about. It’s when it comes from people who don’t have a clue and think getting lucky with shitty hands more often than they have any right to that it irks me.
Well, I don’t think I was on tilt so I suppose it was some combination of the first three. I don’t recall all the specific hands from the other night, but I haven’t a clue how to move someone off a hand if they’re not going to be moved. If a guy’s gonna ride an 8-3 os to the river despite getting raised before the flop I don’t know how to get rid of him. If he hits three to a flush on the flop and is willing to chase it regardless of what’s bet at him I welcome your suggestions. I tried everything I could think of, the end result being I ended up paying him more money when he hit his miracle cards over and over again.
The reason I want to move up is pretty much what JSexton said. Usually I can handle one or even two of these maniacs at a table. It’s when you get up to seven or eight people all calling raises pre-flop when you know there’s no way in hell they all have actual quality starting hands and somebody’s gonna hit. I want to move up because I think it will put the ratio of idiots to me down back where I can more easily handle it and make some more money.
Regardless, in general I make money when I play. I’m still ahead overall despite the hit I took this weekend. I have the patience to build it back up and enough discipline to resist going for the quick fixes. Not that I like losing, but I know it happens. What pissed me off wasn’t the losing; it was the losing to someone playing nothing but luck who had the gall to lecture me about it like he actually knew how to play.
This is exactly what I was going to post. When some dumbshit beats you by playing like an idiot, the last thing you want him to think is that he may have played the hand badly.
Playing against calling stations and maniacs can be very profitable, but you do have to adjust your play. Straights and flushes become a lot more valuable, both because there are usually more callers at tables like you describe, and also because these people will pay you off big time when you hit. If you miss the flop, you fold at low cost. Single pairs are less valuable at a table with five calling stations, and you absolutely can’t slow-play them. If I have top pair, I’ll bet it strong on the flop and often check it on the river, just in case someone caught something stupid.
I do think these games can be profitable. They’re just more swingy. Your bankroll needs to be DEEP, like a couple hundred BBs. Moving up, of course, has its own risks, which I’m sure you’re familiar with. The degree of competence rises fast as you move up table, though. It’s almost always faster than you think. That also generally means tightening up your play, natch.
Smile and nod, my friend. Smile and nod.
Those chips WILL come back home.