I’m just wondering what the price tag is for making an emergency discent and landing from 30k’? Full consumption, post event protocols, what’s the bottom line?
" ‘A look of terror on their face’
That’s what 72 frightened passengers and four crew members endured after a fire broke out…"
Stupidest writing ever?
If he’d done it over Florida. He’d have been found not guilty.
This thread reminded me of the movie Office Space.
Dogs? DOGS?! It’s the cats I’m worried about.
Agree, with nitpicks:
(1) Yes, a confession by itself is insufficient – that’s the doctrine of corpus delicti that Perry Mason used to wave around on occasion. However, if there’s independent evidence that someone committed a crime, but the only evidence that this defendant committed the crime is his confession, that can be sufficient for conviction.
Corpus delicti only weeds out cases where a defendant confesses to a crime that there’s no independent evidence even happened, such as “I killed my mother” when there’s no evidence she’s dead. Find some independent evidence inferring that the defendant’s mother died – nobody’s seen or heard from her in months, no bank or credit-card transactions over the same time, etc. – and the defendant could see himself in the dock based on his confession.
In the situation at issue, the State/Government/People/Crown can obviously prove that there was a lavatory fire, so this guy could be convicted on his confession even absent any forensic evidence, eyewitnesses, or the like tying him to the fire.
(2) I wouldn’t say that “it’s not possible to say it’s valid” so much as that it’s not possible to say definitively that it’s valid. As a matter of strategy, the prosecutor and defense counsel clearly make educated guesses as to whether the confession will stand up in court. 
If a defendant challenges the circumstances of his confession, and it survives a pre-trial motion to suppress, then whether to accept the confession is an issue for the trier of fact at trial. A defendant testifies “the cops beat it out of me” (or the like), the cops take the stand to deny it, and the jury or judge decides who to believe.
and, the verdict is in: federal prison for 74 months, followed by three years probation: Former flight attendant sentenced for plane fire.
A night in Regina, or 6 years in jail? odd choice.
This is the line in the article that got me:
Seems male flight attendants flip out more than the females?
from setting fires in flight, to bullying passengers, and hitting the emergency chute to bail out with beers in hand - what’s going on with these guys?
Presumption of innocence applies in the courtroom, and nowhere else. Hell, even then, the prosecution doesn’t hold to it, and the judge and defense attourney are just faking it. It’s a legal fiction we use to make our lives better, not because it’s factually true.
Ya gotta be nuts to want to be a flight attendant in the first place, male or female.
Are the airlines still hiring 19-year-old flight attendants?
Not if you’re a straight male. Only working at Disneyworld or Hooters offers the same opportunity to have sex with one’s coworkers.
But that would violate the prime directive of “Don’t stick yer dick in teh crazy.”
I think that rule is suspended when you’re going to be 1,500 miles away from the crazy the next morning.
Good point, but the flip side of the coin is that there is no place on the face of the planet where teh crazy can not fly after you.
I guess it would come down to the flight staff scheduler. If he’s your buddy, you’d be safe. If she’s her BFF, then you could run but not hide.
It took me about 30 seconds of wondering “Who the fuck still uses MySpace?” to realize this was a thread from 2008 , back from the dead.
The times, they are a-changin’.
And neither are a great choice if you want to occasionally bang the customers.
From Northern Piper’s link, “Prosecutors said earlier that about five weeks before the Compass flight, Rojas was aboard another flight that was forced to make an emergency landing in Wisconsin because of a bathroom fire. Rojas allegedly helped put out the fire. No charges have been filed in that case.”
He wanted to be a hero, but apparently, putting out the first fire wasn’t enough.
Fargo’s actually not that bad. The downtown is actually pretty cute. Now, if he got stuck in Bismarck, or, God forbid, Dickinson, then he’d be in trouble.