DON'T Stump the Guy with Average Knowledge...

I forgot the score: net gain of 3 for -3.5.

And for guessing the pattern, that’s 21 poin-- . . . Wait, hold on.

After conferring with Al Sharpton and Strom Thurmond (cue weird ghost-ey music since he’s dead), I’ve told I can only award extra credit of 2 points, not 21.

So, total score: -1.5.

[QUOTE=2p8]
For 3*33.33 points, who shot first, Han or Greedo?
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[QUOTE=cmyk]
Pfff, everyone knows it was Han.
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I get 99.99 points. I’m Number One!

[QUOTE= fachverwirrt]
My fake score: 11,999,994.
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Sithspawn! :slight_smile:
(For the record, my “real as in Whose Line is it Anyway? kinda real” score is 37.5 points.)

cymk, since you did so well with CYMK-like questions, how about Round 3 with Printing’s cousin?

General Questions on Desktop Publishing (DTP) … or stuff related to it

1-Pointers:
1.1 What advantage does a desktop publishing program have over a word processor (like say, Microsoft Word)?
1.2 What is the keyboard shortcut for “pasting” text? [In Mac/PC/Linux/doesn’t matter, just give one example]
1.3 In the good old days, before virtual pasting, what was the typical adhesive (two words) used to lay out text? (This adhesive had the property of forming strong yet flexible bonds, useful for repositioning blocks of text.)
1.4 What are the dimensions, in inches, of letter-sized paper? How about legal-sized paper?
1.5 What does WYSIWYG stand for?

2-Pointers:
2.1 What advantage does a vector font have over a bitmapped one?
2.2 Adobe PageMaker used to be a popular DTP program. It’s now being replaced by what Adobe product?
2.3 What does PDF (as in Adobe PDF) stand for?
2.4 Garamond, Bell MT, and the ubiquitous Times New Roman fall into this category of fonts, while Verdana, Impact, and the omnipresent Arial fall into the other. What are the two categories?
2.5 Higher quality books are not bound by glue but by __________. Why?

3-Pointers: (May be obscure, but methinks you have above average knoweldge in this area)
3.1 What is another name for “UPPER-case” letters? For “lower-case” letters?
3.2 Give three examples of common typographical ligatures.
3.3 Johannes Gutenberg used to be credited with inventing the printing press (the same way Christopher Columbus was credited with “discovering America”), but to be more accurate, he is recognized for inventing to concept of _______________. (phrase)
3.4 What (in)famous product by Iomega became shunned by the DTP community (and computer community in general) because of a design flaw known as the “click of death”?
3.5 If a paper has a “20 pound” weight (or basis weight), what does that really mean?

Bonus 3-pointer: What the heck is buckram cloth?

[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]
Seriously, we’re kidding, right (I am).
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Pff… yeh… I’m kidding… ::heh:: wipes sweat from his brow

These internets need some kind of sarcasm amplifier or something. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=cmyk]
Pff… yeh… I’m kidding… ::heh:: wipes sweat from his brow

These internets need some kind of sarcasm amplifier or something. :slight_smile:
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Good, 'cause didja notice how I wrote our names to together on the front of my notebook?

[QUOTE=twopiecesofeight]
I get 99.99 points. I’m Number One!
Sithspawn! :slight_smile:
(For the record, my “real as in Whose Line is it Anyway? kinda real” score is 37.5 points.)

cymk, since you did so well with CYMK-like questions, how about Round 3 with Printing’s cousin?

General Questions on Desktop Publishing (DTP) … or stuff related to it

1-Pointers:
1.1 What advantage does a desktop publishing program have over a word processor (like say, Microsoft Word)?
1.2 What is the keyboard shortcut for “pasting” text? [In Mac/PC/Linux/doesn’t matter, just give one example]
1.3 In the good old days, before virtual pasting, what was the typical adhesive (two words) used to lay out text? (This adhesive had the property of forming strong yet flexible bonds, useful for repositioning blocks of text.)
1.4 What are the dimensions, in inches, of letter-sized paper? How about legal-sized paper?
1.5 What does WYSIWYG stand for?

2-Pointers:
2.1 What advantage does a vector font have over a bitmapped one?
2.2 Adobe PageMaker used to be a popular DTP program. It’s now being replaced by what Adobe product?
2.3 What does PDF (as in Adobe PDF) stand for?
2.4 Garamond, Bell MT, and the ubiquitous Times New Roman fall into this category of fonts, while Verdana, Impact, and the omnipresent Arial fall into the other. What are the two categories?
2.5 Higher quality books are not bound by glue but by __________. Why?

3-Pointers: (May be obscure, but methinks you have above average knoweldge in this area)
3.1 What is another name for “UPPER-case” letters? For “lower-case” letters?
3.2 Give three examples of common typographical ligatures.
3.3 Johannes Gutenberg used to be credited with inventing the printing press (the same way Christopher Columbus was credited with “discovering America”), but to be more accurate, he is recognized for inventing to concept of _______________. (phrase)
3.4 What (in)famous product by Iomega became shunned by the DTP community (and computer community in general) because of a design flaw known as the “click of death”?
3.5 If a paper has a “20 pound” weight (or basis weight), what does that really mean?

Bonus 3-pointer: What the heck is buckram cloth?
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1.1) DTP, or Layout programs (e.g. QuarkXPress or InDesign) are designed from the ground up to deal with the massive undertaking of dealing with hi-res images, typography, illustrative art, indexing, color separations, and actually laying out of elements in a click-and-move sort of way… and much much more. MS Word, is WOEFULLY ill-suited for this sort of thing. Two completely different worlds. Like comparing a spoon to a blender.

1.2) Mac: Command-V

1.3) Spray Mount? But I used a lot of different stuff for such a purpose. There were those old Hot Wax machines too… ahh the bad 'ol days.

1.4) Letter: 8.5"x11"; Legal: Letter: 8.5"x14"; I’ll even give you tabloid: 11"x17"

1.5) What You See Is What You Get.

2.1) Vector is infinitely scalable, the lines of vector images (including fonts) are defined mathematically, so blow that sucker up to 10^20 power, and you got nice, clean edges. Bitmapped is resolution dependent, and is comprised of pixels. It’s only good when the image or font remains so small the naked eye can’t see the pixels. But you blow that bitch up, and you’ll start to see nothing but squares.

2.2) InDesign

2.3) Portable Document Format

2.4) Serif and Sans Serif respectfully.

2.5) Cheese… because, MMMMM… Cheese!

3.1) “Caps” & I’ve always called it simply “lowercase”. I’ll take a stab at “Drops”?

3.2 ffl, ffi, ae

3.3) Hmm… Mass Printing? That’s not really a phrase.

3.4) Zip Discs (and drives). Although… SyQuest Discs was even more despicable IMHO.

3.5) It’s thin and light? Not sure how those stock terms were derived.

BONUS: Got me!

[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]
Good, 'cause didja notice how I wrote our names to together on the front of my notebook?
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I did! hearts

[QUOTE=cmyk]

  1. It’s the zone where a piece might bind or fold. If you run an image or copy through this area, it’s called a Gutter Jump.

  2. A typeface is a subset of a font. So Helvetica Neue Bold would be a typeface of the font Helvetica Neue.

  3. A specially designed character that makes common letter pair look good together, such as: ff; ffl; ti… etc.

  4. Its concerns the layout of a multi-paged print piece, and how it needs to be printed on the sheet relative to how it will be bound.

  5. No cyan would give you an odd pinkish-orangish-yellowish sort of duotone look. Not for the faint of heart. You really need that cyan. If you had to kill a color… kill the black. But don’t expect it to look rich and crisp: It’d look muddy.
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  1. Yes. +3
  2. Sorry, that’s backwards. Typeface is the overall design, while font includes the specific variations (size, italic, etc.) used on the final print. I’ll give you half credit for getting the right idea. + 1.5
  3. Yes. +3
  4. Yes. +3
  5. Yes. +3

That gives me 28.5 points! Whoo!

[QUOTE=cmyk]

2p8’s comments in blue

1.1) DTP, or Layout programs (e.g. QuarkXPress or InDesign) are designed from the ground up to deal with the massive undertaking of dealing with hi-res images, typography, illustrative art, indexing, color separations, and actually laying out of elements in a click-and-move sort of way… and much much more. MS Word, is WOEFULLY ill-suited for this sort of thing. Two completely different worlds. Like comparing a spoon to a blender. Nice! [+1]

1.2) Mac: Command-V Good! [+1]

1.3) Spray Mount? But I used a lot of different stuff for such a purpose. There were those old Hot Wax machines too… ahh the bad 'ol days. I was thinking of “rubber cement”, but you design guys tend to be creative. I wouldn’t be surprised if you used “warm spit” if you were low on supplies. [+1]

1.4) Letter: 8.5"x11"; Legal: Letter: 8.5"x14"; I’ll even give you tabloid: 11"x17" Nice! [+1.5 for that extra info]

1.5) What You See Is What You Get. Yes! [+1]

2.1) Vector is infinitely scalable, the lines of vector images (including fonts) are defined mathematically, so blow that sucker up to 10^20 power, and you got nice, clean edges. Bitmapped is resolution dependent, and is comprised of pixels. It’s only good when the image or font remains so small the naked eye can’t see the pixels. But you blow that bitch up, and you’ll start to see nothing but squares.Good! [+2]

2.2) InDesign Yup! [+2]

2.3) Portable Document Format Yup! [+2]

2.4) Serif and Sans Serif respectfully. Bingo! [+2]

2.5) Cheese… because, MMMMM… Cheese! Ha! I’m never gonna let you near my comic books, preserved with … cheese…but I digress. Good books are bound with “thread stitching” where pages are sewn in signatures. The advantage, besides longer durability, is that pages of stitched books lie flat. Good luck trying to get your typical paperback to do that.[-2]

3.1) “Caps” & I’ve always called it simply “lowercase”. I’ll take a stab at “Drops”?
This was a bad question. I was thinking “MAJESCULES” and “miniscules”, but those are terms in calligraphy.[+1 for CAPS, -2 for me asking this question.]

3.2 ffl, ffi, ae I wrote this post while sturmhauke posted his question about ligatures, so question this shouldn’t count [+0]

3.3) Hmm… Mass Printing? That’s not really a phrase. I was thinking of “inventing movable type for a printing press”, but he did contribute to making booking printing an industry (and probably put a lot of monks outta work). [+1]

3.4) Zip Discs (and drives). Although… SyQuest Discs was even more despicable IMHO. SyQuest was an abomination. (What kind of name is SyQuest, anyway?) [+3]

3.5) It’s thin and light? Not sure how those stock terms were derived. **Yeah, and you would get owned if you print your term papers on it. 24-pound paper makes nicer looking documents…

…Shucks. I was hoping you would get this right, because even I’m not exactly sure and wanted confirmation from someone in the industry. If I read the Wikipedia article correctly, it depends on the type of paper. In this case, 20-lb regular paper (bond) means that if you cut this paper into 17x22-inch sheets and made a stack of 500 sheets, that particular stack would weigh 20 pounds. [-3 for our combined ignorance]**

BONUS: Got me! This one I know. Buckram cloth is cloth that has been impregnated with plastic. Library books often have covers made of buckram. Buckram covers are often used to replace leather book covers because leather covers will deteriorate into what is known as “red rot”. (Leather covers will crumble into red flakes and mess up your clothes; I speak from personal experience) [+0]

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The above answers total +11.5, yielding a cumulative total of 11.5+37.5=49.0 points

Let’s see…what other areas do you want to play with? I can come up with some stuff on Windows, Microsoft, Linux, anime, Japanese language, guy fashion/style, library work, and McDonald’s (I worked there in a past life, so things may be out of date. Remember the McRib?)

[QUOTE=twopiecesofeight]
The above answers total +11.5, yielding a cumulative total of 11.5+37.5=49.0 points

Let’s see…what other areas do you want to play with? I can come up with some stuff on Windows, Microsoft, Linux, anime, Japanese language, guy fashion/style, library work, and McDonald’s (I worked there in a past life, so things may be out of date. Remember the McRib?)

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Yeh, never heard of MAJESCULES. It must only be a calligraphy thing. I never took calligraphy.

Didn’t really know about the stitching thing either, just always thought everything was perfect bound with glue. Other than sattle stitching (with staples)… but that’s for way smaller page counts (spreads that can be folded in half, then stapled).

I was gonna guess that the # was determined by what a ream weighed! But, alas I didn’t know what size sheets, then I was thinking it was too obvious. crazy!

It wouldn’t be fair to say what else I was good at, so ask away at your own risk!!! However, I will say you’ve listed some areas I’m average at and some I’m frighteningly dense on. So tread lightly :wink:

MID-COURSE CORRECTION TIME:

Ok, I think it’s been well established that I live in SE Michigan, and my profession is in the Graphic Arts. I’d hate to see these areas be expoited much further. Earlier I said “life ain’t fair”, but I do want to keep the game balanced. Also, I don’t want the game to slow down because the questions have to be too esoteric to win.

SO

I propose that any questions about my profession and my location be limited to one per post. And if you can refrain from them entirely… then I give you integrity points! They’re kinda like Shrute Bucks™.

Also, it seems pretty clear that I’m slightly more knowledeble in things astronomic and scientific… but I’m no Chronos or Stranger on a Train… so that’s still fair game in my opinion.

Lastly, there are still areas I think I have a good grasp on that haven’t been tapped yet. This game is entirely addictive, and I’m still having a blast… lets keep going! :smiley:

[QUOTE=cmyk]
Yeh, never heard of MAJESCULES. It must only be a calligraphy thing. I never took calligraphy.
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Too bad the Average Guy knows nothing about calligraphy. I would lose all my hard-earned points if I approached this subject.

[QUOTE=cmyk]
Didn’t really know about the stitching thing either, just always thought everything was perfect bound with glue. Other than sattle stitching (with staples)… but that’s for way smaller page counts (spreads that can be folded in half, then stapled).
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Saddle stitching is cheaper and is appropriate for magazines that need be open flat while being affordable to print and distribute. The drawback is that a staple can only go through so many pages before it feels like you’re driving a nail through wood. (Isn’t that what a huge stack of paper resembles?)

[QUOTE=cmyk]
I was gonna guess that the # was determined by what a ream weighed! But, alas I didn’t know what size sheets, then I was thinking it was too obvious. crazy!
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Yeah. It’s more convoluted than I initially thought.

[QUOTE=cmyk]
It wouldn’t be fair to say what else I was good at, so ask away at your own risk!!! However, I will say you’ve listed some areas I’m average at and some I’m frighteningly dense on. So tread lightly :wink:
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Guess I’ll need to throw out some assessment questions to guage which areas to avoid. At least I know Calligraphy is out of the question. :slight_smile:

Give me a moment to read the previous posts to see what’s already been covered. Wow, nine pages…

Okay, I’ve gone through the list of previous questions and thought of some tangents. I’m thoroughly enjoying this. To me, the fun is reading cmyk’s witty answers, especially when they are the WAG kind.

Jumping All Over The Place Kinda Questions [Point values in brackets]

  1. It was posted that Thomas Jefferson’s house is Monticello. It’s an architectural marvel with many cool design features. One of them is a dumbwaiter system. What’s that? [1]

  2. It was posted that “Rosebud” is the name of the sled in “Citizen Kane”. Who was the actual historical figure that the movie was portraying and criticizing? [1]

  3. Daimler-Chrysler recently was in the news. What was the big deal? [1]

  4. Who was Batman’s butler? Who played the butler’s role in the most recent Batman film, “Batman Begins”? [1]

  5. The actor from Question 4 got his breakthrough role by playing an upper-class British officer in the movie “Zulu”. However, it was an unusual performance because he did not speak in the expected Received Pronunciation, but instead spoke with his native ___________ accent. [3]

  6. If acrophobia is the fear of heights, then what is the fear of flying? [1]

    1. There’s a popular Japanese graphic novel that was made into a live action TV series last year and an anime this year. A main character in the story wants to learn conducting abroad in Europe, but his fear of flying prevents him from leaving Japan. What is the name of this series? (two words) [2]
  7. Who provided the voice for Bugs Bunny? [1]

  8. It’s hard to come up with questions for An Average Guy when you’re clearly [DDR announcer voice]“Not an ordinary fellow!”[/voice]. What does DDR stand for in this case? [1]

  9. Hollywood is planning to release a Mortal Kombat 3 movie. Name three upcoming or just released (within the past year) “re-makes/re-boots/sequels” that have been “inspired” by movies or TV shows that were at their heyday during the eighties, when we were teenagers? [3]

So far: 49 points

[QUOTE=twopiecesofeight]
Okay, I’ve gone through the list of previous questions and thought of some tangents. I’m thoroughly enjoying this. To me, the fun is reading cmyk’s witty answers, especially when they are the WAG kind.

Jumping All Over The Place Kinda Questions [Point values in brackets]

  1. It was posted that Thomas Jefferson’s house is Monticello. It’s an architectural marvel with many cool design features. One of them is a dumbwaiter system. What’s that? [1]

  2. It was posted that “Rosebud” is the name of the sled in “Citizen Kane”. Who was the actual historical figure that the movie was portraying and criticizing? [1]

  3. Daimler-Chrysler recently was in the news. What was the big deal? [1]

  4. Who was Batman’s butler? Who played the butler’s role in the most recent Batman film, “Batman Begins”? [1]

  5. The actor from Question 4 got his breakthrough role by playing an upper-class British officer in the movie “Zulu”. However, it was an unusual performance because he did not speak in the expected Received Pronunciation, but instead spoke with his native ___________ accent. [3]

  6. If acrophobia is the fear of heights, then what is the fear of flying? [1]

    1. There’s a popular Japanese graphic novel that was made into a live action TV series last year and an anime this year. A main character in the story wants to learn conducting abroad in Europe, but his fear of flying prevents him from leaving Japan. What is the name of this series? (two words) [2]
  7. Who provided the voice for Bugs Bunny? [1]

  8. It’s hard to come up with questions for An Average Guy when you’re clearly [DDR announcer voice]“Not an ordinary fellow!”[/voice]. What does DDR stand for in this case? [1]

  9. Hollywood is planning to release a Mortal Kombat 3 movie. Name three upcoming or just released (within the past year) “re-makes/re-boots/sequels” that have been “inspired” by movies or TV shows that were at their heyday during the eighties, when we were teenagers? [3]

So far: 49 points
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  1. It’s the dood who couldn’t get my order straight at Outback the other night.

OR

Its a smallish pully-powered elevator built into a wall to move plates, platters and food between floors.

  1. Damn. Never actually SAW the film ducks

  2. I don’t really follow that anymore, but as of late, it’s usually more layoffs, or merging (yet again). I’ll go with merging.

  3. Alfred; Michael Caine

  4. English

  5. Aerophobia? Damn. I dunno… my doctor called it something once, and handed me a 'script for Xanax. Now everything’s just a blur. A very relaaaaxed blur.

  6. Mel Blanc

  7. “Something” Dialog Replacement? (half-credit if I got the last two words right :wink: )

  8. Dukes of Hazzard; Transformers; The Simpsons Movie?

Whoops, missed Question # 7:

I have absolutely no idea. :smiley:

At -9 points.

What’s the difference between a cappuccino and a latte? (1 pt)

What is a hookah, and what consumable good is traditionally used with it? (2 pts)

In which Stanley Kubrick film did Peter Sellers play three roles? (3 pts)

What faulty part was the proximate cause of the space shuttle Challenger disaster? (3 pts)

Which scientist famously demonstrated this flaw and how? (2 pts)

Who was Emile Durkheim? (3 pts)

What is the economic relationship illustrated by the Laffer curve? (3 pts)

Is a (flat) sales tax a progressive tax, a regressive tax, or neither? (2 pts)

Who is the hero of James Clavell’s novel Tai Pan (alternatively, name the company featured throughout much of Clavell’s Asian Saga) (2 pts)

Who conducted the Boston Pops from 1980-1995? (2 pts)

Where are a majority of the world’s laptop computers manufactured? (1 pt)

  1. Who directed the Lord of the Rings films? (2)

  2. What is the Harrison Ford “trilogy of trilogies”, so named despite the fact that he does not appear in one of the films? (2)

  3. What does MPAA stand for? (1)

  4. What feature do all square roots of non-perfect-square integers share? (3)

  5. (Big gamble follow-up) What is the mathematical definition of this feature? (2)

  6. What is a quasar? (2)

  7. What is a pulsar? (2)

  8. A while ago, I mentioned “cosmogony”. What, exactly, is it? (2)

[QUOTE=cmyk]

Comments by 2p8 in blue

  1. It’s the dood who couldn’t get my order straight at Outback the other night. What didja order?

OR

Its a smallish pully-powered elevator built into a wall to move plates, platters and food between floors.
Nice! +1

  1. Damn. Never actually SAW the film ducks
    Me neither! It’s about William Randolph Hearst. Bigshot newspaper mongul who built a palace (Hearst Castle) along the Pacific Ocean. The place is now a National Historic Landmark. -1

  2. I don’t really follow that anymore, but as of late, it’s usually more layoffs, or merging (yet again). I’ll go with merging.
    They merged nine years ago. The merger didn’t work out, so now they’ve split up into separate companies again. As one insider put it, Americans don’t want to spend more for a Cadillac with Mercedes technology. -1

  3. Alfred; Michael Caine
    Nice! +1

  4. English
    Caine spoke with a Cockney accent, normally associated with working class or lower class folks. Accents can be a very big deal across the pond. Prime Minister Tony Blair speaks with an Estuary Accent, which seems to be taking over Received Pronunciation (the “Queen’s English”) in prevalence. -3

  5. Aerophobia? Damn. I dunno… my doctor called it something once, and handed me a 'script for Xanax. Now everything’s just a blur. A very relaaaaxed blur.
    Close: aviatophobia or aviophobia. -1

  6. I have absolutely no idea.
    Nodame Cantabile. Guess I’ll stay away from Japanese Animation, then. -2

  7. Mel Blanc
    Bingo! +1

  8. “Something” Dialog Replacement? (half-credit if I got the last two words right :wink: )
    Nice try. DDR = Dance Dance Revolution, the game from Konami where you listen to a song and jump on various arrows on a dance pad to match the arrows appearing on the screen. A hyper announcer acts as a one-man peanut gallery, making comments on your progress ranging from “You’re doing a good job!” to “My grandma can do better than that!” -1

  9. Dukes of Hazzard; Transformers; The Simpsons Movie?
    Awesome! Other answers include “Miami Vice”, “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles”, and “Street Fighter” (rumor has it another movie is in the works) +3
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Score: 49 + (-3) = 46 points

Oh well. As long as I don’t go below zero, I’m good. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]
Babe Ruth was colored? Boy, is his mama gonna be surprised; his daddy even more so.
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Actually, it was rumored during his lifetime that the Babe had some Negroid ancestry. This column features a few anecdotes, as well as reasons for the speculation.

Also, in another post, you conflated the SNCC (Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee) with the SCLC (Southern Christian Leadership Conference).

And to answer a question you posed, B movies weren’t necessarily “bad”. The term isn’t specifically a value judgment. As this article explains, a B movie was originally the second part of a double feature which opened (after the newsreels, cartoons, previews, short subject, etc.) with an A, or feature, presentation. Kind of like the “flip side” of a record – the A side was intended to be the hit, while the B side was seen as less likely to catch on, but still a song which showcased the artist’s talents.

While B pictures were generally lower-budget than the main features, and more likely to be in such a genre as Western or horror, many did happen to feature up-and-coming talent (actors, directors, writers, whatever). Such films have thus become more appreciated over time, as they represent the earliest recorded appearances of some of the silver screen’s greats.

[QUOTE=Sternvogel]
Actually, it was rumored during his lifetime that the Babe had some Negroid ancestry. This column features a few anecdotes, as well as reasons for the speculation.*

Also, in another post, you conflated the SNCC (Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee) with the SCLC (Southern Christian Leadership Conference).
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Sternvogel, thanks. It was nagging me all night last night that I had inadvertantly typed that and miseducated someone. I just haven’t had a chance today to fix it. I knew it, I was just doing to much when I posted it.

I did not know that about Ruth though. Once I get a chance to read the link, if I’m convinced, I may revise the OP’s score. And thanks also for the clarification on B movies; again, I knew that, I just went with the easy toss-off line.

*cmyk, you might be smarter than you think!

Be back later tonight!