Don't wear your uniform to the fucking bar!

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[QUOTE=Misnomer]
Yeah, you, guy in BDUs who spent all of Friday night hanging out right at the bar so that everyone could see you. The other women I was there with both flirted with you, and the guys I was there with both bought you a drink, but I kept my distance because the more I thought about you, the more annoyed I got. I was probably the most pro-military person in that bar, but what the fuck made you think that using your uniform to get drinks/women was a good idea? It struck me as annoying at best, verging on downright disrespectful. And you weren’t some fresh-faced recruit straight out of boot camp: I didn’t note your rank, but you were clearly old enough to know better…
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From over here, you sound like a really jealous guy who doesn’t like not being the alpha male.

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[QUOTE=Hey you!]
From over here, you sound like a really jealous guy who doesn’t like not being the alpha male.
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This is almost funny. Almost.
As an aside, since this thread has wandered from Military regs to Wedding etiquette, why do some folks find a man in uniform so mouth-wateringly sexy? I realize it’s a personal preference, but I would like a little more insight from a female perspective. Anything remotely military is almost a guarantee that my interest will sink to zero, so I just don’t understand it.

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Well, e-logic, none of the things you mentioned are etiquette rules. I could break them down one at a time, but I think I’ve hijacked this thread enough. I don’t think we’re ever going to see eye to eye on this issue, so I suppose we’d better just agree to disagree.

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[QUOTE=FaerieBeth]
This is almost funny. Almost.
As an aside, since this thread has wandered from Military regs to Wedding etiquette, why do some folks find a man in uniform so mouth-wateringly sexy? I realize it’s a personal preference, but I would like a little more insight from a female perspective. Anything remotely military is almost a guarantee that my interest will sink to zero, so I just don’t understand it.
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I can’t answer that, but I can tell you one of the reasons why a uniform weorks well with women. It’s basically a conversation hook. Women who otherwise wouldn’t dream of approaching a strange man will walk up and start talking. So will anyone, really.

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[QUOTE=FaerieBeth]
why do some folks find a man in uniform so mouth-wateringly sexy?
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For me it’s not the uniform, per se - it’s the military thing. My dad was Reg Force for 34 years, and Militia for another 6.

There’s just something so soothing about a military man. Someone a page or so ago asked if you could really spot a military man if he wasn’t wearing a uniform. I certainly can - I’m not guaranteeing 100% accuracy or anything, but military men do have a way about them.

It melts my butter.

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Since you all are so hot on uniforms in bars–lemme go iron my scrubs and go hang out at the local watering hole.
Hey-it works for miitary, why not nurses?*

except that there is usually a morals clause in your terms of employment…*
** although it was Amy Vanderbilt who said something along the lines of (I paraphrase), “the uniform of a nurse accrues unto the wearer a shield of respectability and honor. A nurse in uniform is always correct, no matter the situation or circumstances in which she is found.”
nice. :slight_smile:

PS- I think it is tacky, too. I could see if he was in his dress uniform, on the way home from somewhere. He sounds young and immature–oh, never mind… :wink:

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]
Since you all are so hot on uniforms in bars–lemme go iron my scrubs and go hang out at the local watering hole.

Hey-it works for miitary, why not nurses?*
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Considering a lot of the porn I’ve seen, you’d be beating the boys off with a stick. Or girls, in that one movie…

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[QUOTE=Hey you!]
From over here, you sound like a really jealous guy who doesn’t like not being the alpha male.
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You do realize Misnomer is not a guy, right? Especially after countless posters in this thread has referred to her as her?

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[QUOTE=alice_in_wonderland]
Considering a lot of the porn I’ve seen, you’d be beating the boys off with a stick. Or girls, in that one movie…
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Well, she would if she works in the only hospital in the world where they still wear the white nurses’ uniforms. I’ll bet her scrubs consist of a paisley smock and drawstring scrub pants.

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[QUOTE=saoirse]
I’ll bet her scrubs consist of a paisley smock and drawstring scrub pants.
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Yah - CROTCHLESS drawstring scrub pants!

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]
Why not? Do you wear tight jeans, a leather jacket, short skirts or something to attract men? The dudes has earned his right to wear that uniform, so he can. If it works for him, more power to him.
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I saw a thread on another part of this forum that says that in most armed services there are regulations against wearing your uniform to a bar. Either the guy mentioned in the OP is ignorant of these regulations or disrespectful of them.

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[QUOTE=Blanche]
I saw a thread on another part of this forum that says that in most armed services there are regulations against wearing your uniform to a bar. Either the guy mentioned in the OP is ignorant of these regulations or disrespectful of them.
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Not all uniforms. All of the services have working uniforms that are meant to be worn only while on duty. You can usually wear those uniforms to and from work, and to stop off real quick and buy gas or something, but you aren’t really supposed to wear them in public: at a restaurant, or a bar, or to a movie or at the mall. The other uniforms (dress uniforms for formal occasions, and service uniforms for everyday) may be worn in public, pretty much anywhere you want to go, even to a bar.

This whole thread is somewhat complicated by the fact that the soldier in the OP appears to have been wearing his BDUs, which are, apparently, a working uniform, not authorized to be worn in public. If he had been wearing his service or dress uniform, it would have been within military regs for him to wear it at the bar, though.

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[QUOTE=footloose]
And? It was also mentioned the bar in question was miles away from anything resembling military. This means the loser/dweeb/liar in question purposely packed a uniform for a night out on the town. Which turns him into a Loser/Dweeb/Liar and, perhaps, even a LOSER/DWEEB/LIAR.
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The answer to your question would be to refer you to the “not that it makes difference in you opinion regarding the soldier” part of my post.

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]
Since you all are so hot on uniforms in bars–lemme go iron my scrubs and go hang out at the local watering hole.
Hey-it works for miitary, why not nurses?*
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You’re kidding right? If not, then my answer to your question is “it DOES work for nurses”. You’ve never heard of the naughty nurse? Never seen one of those abbreviated nurse costumes made for Halloween?

When it comes to that, PUH lenty of girl’s “uniforms” are lusted after by the male half of the species as well.

Marion the Librarian…cheerleaders, Female Wardens, there’s a whole gamut of 'em.

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[QUOTE=e-logic]

the question remains… why single out soldiers? if a judge wore his robes to a wedding it would be daft, likewise a soldier who wears his dress uniform to a social (non-military) event.
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The difference is that judges’ robes [ceremonial wear], doctors’ scrubs [work wear], BDUs [work wear] are all not designed as formal wear.

Military formal dress is just that, formal dress. Clothing meant to be worn for formal occasions, both at social functions and official events. The level of dress ranges from the suit-and-tie equivelent to the full blown mess-dress [tux-level].

A judge’s robes are ceremonial robes, they are meant to be worn in court as part of a specific ceremony. If judges had a traditional “formal dress” outfit then by all means they should be free to wear it at appropriately formal occasions.

A doctor’s scrubs are work-wear. They are meant as a functional outfit to be worn at work. If doctor’s had a similiar “formal dress” then sure, it would be appropriate to wear it. They don’t. The exception is of course the Surgeon General who -does- have a official “formal dress.”

BDUs as I stated, are work-wear and should only be worn during, going to, or coming from work. As I stated before, were I in the bar I would have asked for an explanation as to why the member was still in BDUs.

Police, and certain other professions also have designated formal wear and it is of course appropriate to wear for formal occasions.

The clergy, on the other hand, like the judges have ceremonial wear, meant for wear while carrying out certain functions [the full regalia]. Some sects also have their version of “formal dress” and “casual dress” which are of course appropriate in the appropriate setting.

If you’re annoyed that only certain professions have designated “formal dress” then perhaps you should lobby to have your own equivlent created [then wait a few hundred years for the tradition to catch on].

A service member wearing mess dress to a wedding instead of a tux is no more innappropriate then a women wearing a pant-suit instead of a dress. As long as the level of dress [on a casual to formal scale] is appropriate to the event then the dress is appropriate.

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[QUOTE=CanvasShoes]
You’re kidding right? If not, then my answer to your question is “it DOES work for nurses”. You’ve never heard of the naughty nurse? Never seen one of those abbreviated nurse costumes made for Halloween?

When it comes to that, PUH lenty of girl’s “uniforms” are lusted after by the male half of the species as well.

Marion the Librarian…cheerleaders, Female Wardens, there’s a whole gamut of 'em.
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Whoosh…
It only works for the “nurses” in porn movies–who don’t wear the contemporary uniform of the RN. :rolleyes: So, it’s ok for me to wear my scrubs into a bar so that I can fulfill some asshole’s fantasy? There’s motivation. :rolleyes:

And, saoirse paisley tops are nasty–i get to wear “ceil blue” (yep, that’s how it’s spelled)–a light blue cotton/poly blend that is both hot and unattractive. No drawstrings on this one–elastic, more’s the pity. I like drawstring scrubs–very comfy. Yeah, I love it-not. See, the hospital put the uniform issue to a vote a few years ago. We all voted to keep it as is–clean and neat scrubs of whatever design the nurse chose. Since it was unanimous (cannot spell taht word!)–admin changed it to ceil blue. <sigh> That’s listening to your staff, folks! Well done. (sorry, OT)

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You want tacky? I once won a uniform contest in a bar wearing my roommate’s flight suit. It was a good two or three sizes too small for me, extremely tight (especially around the “package”), and unzipped to the navel.

Got a $50 bar tab out of it. :smiley:

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[QUOTE=alice_in_wonderland]
Yah - CROTCHLESS drawstring scrub pants!
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You should try washing them in the Gentle Cycle.

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[QUOTE=Jess]
Not all uniforms. All of the services have working uniforms that are meant to be worn only while on duty. You can usually wear those uniforms to and from work, and to stop off real quick and buy gas or something, but you aren’t really supposed to wear them in public: at a restaurant, or a bar, or to a movie or at the mall. The other uniforms (dress uniforms for formal occasions, and service uniforms for everyday) may be worn in public, pretty much anywhere you want to go, even to a bar.

This whole thread is somewhat complicated by the fact that the soldier in the OP appears to have been wearing his BDUs, which are, apparently, a working uniform, not authorized to be worn in public. If he had been wearing his service or dress uniform, it would have been within military regs for him to wear it at the bar, though.
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Dress uniforms should only be worn to formal occasions, which a night at the bar doesn’t qualify for (you also aren’t supposed to wear them to political events). Does anyone have a link to the regulations on where you are allowed to wear uniforms that fall between “work clothes” and “fancy dress”?

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[QUOTE=Blanche]
Dress uniforms should only be worn to formal occasions, which a night at the bar doesn’t qualify for (you also aren’t supposed to wear them to political events). Does anyone have a link to the regulations on where you are allowed to wear uniforms that fall between “work clothes” and “fancy dress”?
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No link I’m afraid as I’m getting ready for work but I’ll answer as best I can.

Yes, there are varying levels of “non-work” uniforms. Generally, it ranges from various versions of button down open collar short sleeve shirt with slacks, to button down long sleeve shirt with tie with slacks, to all of the above with jacket, to mess dress [tux].

While it is stipulated that work uniform, [BDUs, scrubs, flight suits] should not be worn to social events, I am unaware of any regulation restricting dress uniform.

As far as I’m aware, underdressing is a no-no but overdressing is left to the members judgement. Of course, overdressing [putting on your service dress to go to a bar] is still tacky unless you have no other option.