Ahhh, Sears Toughskins: your kid’s knees will wear out before these jeans do.
I believe my corporate office allows jeans but only on casual Fridays.
We had a similar problem. Sandals weren’t permitted under our dress code but several women, including one VP, wore some version of “dress” sandals feeling as though that made it okay. Open toed shoes were specifically called out as not being part of the dress code.
You and me both. I work in an environment were 3/4ths of our employees are women, so if someone’s violating the dress code it’s probably a woman. My working theory is that women’s fashion changes more frequently than men’s, and dress codes don’t keep up with those changes. I remember my middle school’s dress code forbade us from wearing shirts without sleeves, but by the mid to late 1980s, that wasn’t really in fashion for kids my age, so it wasn’t particularly burdensome. At my first professional job in the 1990s, several of my women coworkers were ready to go to war over the right to wear culottes which were against the dress code.
Other than running focus groups and writing a new dress code, I’ve never actually been involved in an employee dispute over dress codes.
PSA: Wikipedia articles that have proper wiki header organization implement HTML ID atribute bookmark references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen#2024
(Yes, the infobox still shows the beginning of the article, but following the link takes you directly to the designated bookmark in the page.)
How do you grab that link?
If you’re using a desktop browser, the article will have a table of contents. Each of the ToC targets is one of those bookmarks, and if you click on the correct ToC entry the URL in your browser will update with the correct “#” bookmark which you can copy/paste.
I mostly use mobile browsers, so I just guess at the correct bookmark by looking at the heading of the section. Generally, it will be the full-page URL with a “#” and then the section header, except that spaces are replaced with an underscore (“_”).
So a link to a section about The Flintstones charactera on a Wiki page about Hanna Barbera characters (List of Hanna-Barbera characters - Wikipedia) would be:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hanna-Barbera_characters#The_Flintstones_and_related_spin-offs_(1960%E2%80%93present)
All things being equal, using the table of contents is a lot easier.
Thanks!
Things are going downhill at work. One thing I’ve noticed is the dress code of business casual Mon - Thu and jeans on Fri is not being enforced.
Moderating:
That’s kinda “Junior modding”, or at least an awfully aggressive comment to make to a new poster. Please remember this is IMHO.
Sorry. Was truly just curious how someone would just happen upon such an old thread, and feel motivated to set up an account and post.
I guess kenobi says google turns up old SDMB threads. I haven’t noticed that.
I actually thought asking a question of a newcomer was welcoming. Basically a bemused, “How the heck did THAT happen?” Meant nothing aggressive, challenging, disapproving, or anything else. Won’t happen again.
It seems like at least half of the long-dead zombie threads that get revived are done by brand-new posters.
And, I recall that, some years ago (pre-Discourse days), reading from the admins and mods here that threads on the SDMB were now being indexed by Google, and could thus show up on Google searches.
That “Stewart Sandwiches” thread in Cafe Society has come back from the dead more often than Jean Grey, and it’s nearly always by someone who was googling about them, found the thread, and created an account here to talk about them.
When I went to search “why does our dress code not allow denim” on Google just now, this thread was the sixth result returned:
I’m thinking I saw someone say this sometime before. Just not anything that would ever occur to me. And, I never noticed SDMB results in my Google searches. Thanks. (Apologies for the hijack.)
Yeah, I’m confused about jeans’ reputation for comfortableness. To me they seem stiffer and more restrictive, and hence less comfortable, than, say, khakis.
For a pair of absolutely brand-new jeans, which have never been laundered, I wouldn’t disagree.
For a good-fitting pair of jeans, after a few washes, they become far less restrictive. Also, when I buy jeans these days (I’ve worn the same style of jeans – Levi’s 527s – for at least a decade, and have only worn Levi’s for 40 years), what’s offered at the store are usually jeans that aren’t that deep indigo, never-been-washed, stiff as plywood denim – nearly all of the jeans have been washed once or more, and are at least a little broken in.
IME, once a pair is “worn in” (with four or five wearings and washes), the material is soft, they’re extremely comfortable, and don’t feel restrictive in the slightest – they’re at least as comfortable as khakis or other casual pants. Part of that may be that I’ve found a brand and style that fits my body shape well. YMMV, of course.
The only jeans I’ll buy are the type that have a stretchiness to them. I’d never buy that stiff, unbroken-in, hard denim with no give that seems to be all that existed pre-1980s. GapFlex, Express’s Hyper Stretch, etc. they are all extremely soft and comfortable.
I work for county govenment. I don’t think we have a dress codes other than ‘be an adult, umkay’.
I’m in IS. So a bunch of geeks. We are notorious for wearing pretty much anything you want. Just don’t go totally slumming and stink the place up. Don’t wear your PJ’s to work. I’ve never encountered that, because we are adults.
We work in the Colorado mountains. It’s all office work, but the mountains are quite laid back. Can also get pretty harsh weather, so jeans work well.
I work from home now. But I wear the same thing as I did when I went to work. Jeans, tee shirt, fleece top, hiking shoes. It’s just my clothes. It’s what I wear.
It’s what you are used to I suppose. I find them comfortable. I find thin fitted dress slacks uncomfortable.
This thread is so dated. What do you go to an office? Who wears PANTS on a Zoom call?
My former job was technically business casual (I think), but no one dressed that way: jeans, T-shirts, shorts (some developers, some QA, some customer support)
(once in a great while we had customer visits and had to dress up, but that was once a year max)
When I worked remote, I dressed the same way (jeans and a t-shirt or sweatshirt) except I wore slippers instead of athletic shoes.
When the office opened I was one of the few (~10%) who went in every day – it was just as quiet as my house, I had a great view (right on the Mississippi River - bald eagles were not a rare sight), I had two monitors (only one at home) - free drinks and later snacks (nuts, pretzels, cheesits, etc.) - anyhow the dress code was about the same. Since the office was mostly empty I could carry my bicycle in and leave it near my desk (4.6 mile commute)
It is now mandated to be in the office 3 days a week, but it didn’t seem to be enforced strongly.
(your manager could approve more working from home - not sure the limits of that are)
The place I interviewed with appears to be more business casual, (based on what I noticed on zoom – but that could be because they were interviewing)
Brian
I think to some extent is has to do with what goes along with a dress code that prohibits jeans, not always the jeans themselves. My last job had different dress codes for different jobs - the entry level professional job allowed jeans and sneakers and T shirts that weren’t undergarments. Eventually, people in that job could be promoted to a job that didn’t allow jeans - but those jobs also didn’t allow sneakers or T shirts , required “dress shoes” , men needed to wear a collared shirt and tie and everyone had to wear something jacket-like. I could find other pants that were just as comfortable as jeans - in fact , I could wear pants that were cut like jeans as long as they weren’t made from denim. The problem for me was the “dress shoes” and the jacket or sweater.
And it was an issue for me right up until the end, because my particular job never went remote. Other people at the agency ended up working remotely, and some got paid for a few months without working at all but but my position required me to be in office every day.