Driving practices poll (with a stupid coworker addendum)

1)Depends on the road. Chicago’s Lake Shore Drive I’ll easily go 20 above the speed limit. Probably not the best idea but I assume you’re asking what happens, not what’s ideal.
2)All of the above.
3)98% of the time. It should be 100%.
4)I don’t think so, no. I think telling coworkers to stay behind you is oddly controlling, and you kinda set yourself up for commentary. Let them know about the guards, if they get there 15 minutes before you then they’ll spend 15 minutes listening to the radio. Who cares? If you don’t want other people telling you how to drive, then don’t tell them that they must follow you.

I drive to the speed limit for all urban roads and single carriageway roads. Long journeys on the motorways I tend to put my foot down and drive at 90 mph (70 mph limit) if conditions permit.

Your trainee is a raging bell end, obviously. But 55 in an 80 zone? Sounds real slow. I guess it depends on what everyone else is driving at, the good old ‘community speed’. Is an expressway like an urban version of the interstate?

1. As a function of the speed limit, how fast do you typically drive?
Usually about 5mph over on regular roads - on major highways about 10mph over.

2. If you generally keep at or below the speed limit, do you do so because you want to save on gas, because you want to drive defensively, because you’re afraid of getting ticketed, or some other reason?
I stick to that 5mph over the limit because you have to be going over 5mph over the limit in order to be stopped for speeding. Radar guns have a +/- 5mph discrepency so staying at that 5mph mark keeps you safe.
The 10mph on highways is because most cops won’t stop you for going less than 10mph over the limit - it’s a waste of their time and way too much paperwork to do so.

3. When turning right on red, do you come to a complete stop before proceeding into the intersection?
Yes, always.

3. Should I bitch-slap this trainee, and if so, how?
Don’t hire him. He’s going to be a complainer who does things his own way no matter what you tell him. He’s already proven that point.

Not sure if that’s true or not. My father – driving through what was then Speed Trap Alley – got a ticket for going 71 in a 70-mph zone. I guess he could have fought it, making the officer to come to court and prove the radar gun was calibrated, or something like that.

Now then. It’s a common rule of thumb that most law-enforcement folks won’t bother with chasing down just-over speeders. But at least around here, there are localities in which that rule of thumb doesn’t hold.

Essentially, yes.

  1. I usually try to stay within 10 miles of the limit.
  2. Because I don’t want any more speeding tickets.
  3. I tend to California stop right turns if the traffic allows.
  4. Do not hire. The guy is a tool. If he’s this much of a disrespectful PITA already. he’s only going to get worse as time goes by. Dude does not have good professional skills.

:eek: Now that’s a cop with some authority issues! I probably would have fought it though. I don’t know too many cops who would go to court for a speeding ticket for 1mph over the limit!

  1. I usually go speed limit to 5 miles above on regular roads, 10 miles above on the highway.
  2. (a) I don’t want to get a ticket. (b) I don’t want an accident.
  3. Heck yes.
  4. He insisted it was illegal to stop at a red light when making a right turn? He’s an idiot. I’m with Fallen Angel–use a brick.

Money spent training this guy is going to be money wasted, so cut him loose now and save it. And he’s bad at math, probably not a weakness the sales staff should have.

  1. As a function of the speed limit, how fast do you typically drive?

Generally speed limit to maybe five over, but UNDER the speed limit if three cars are following me.

  1. If you generally keep at or below the speed limit, do you do so because you want to save on gas, because you want to drive defensively, because you’re afraid of getting ticketed, or some other reason?

If people are following me, so they don’t get lost, feel like they need to break the law to keep up, get a ticket.

  1. When turning right on red, do you come to a complete stop before proceeding into the intersection?

Absolutely.

  1. Should I bitch-slap this trainee, and if so, how? :cool: (If he’s hired, his job will be B2B selling.)

I agree that this trainee will be a pain in the back end once hired. Telling your boss to break the law is not exactly an A+ on an ethics test either

[hijack]If you reread the OP imagining Dwight Schrute as the lead driver and Andy Bernard as the clueless trainee, it’s pretty funny.[/hijack]

Because the power to fire is the power to fuck up someone’s life. I’ve been fired, both justly and unjustly, and I know whereof I speak. It’s not something to be done lightly. I’m not saying I’m going to give everybody a free ride throughout the trainign process; I’m saying that I’m going to give him another chance.

  1. A little above unless I really know the area and know that I should drive at or slower (so as to avoid problems) or that I can drive a little faster because there won’t be any.

  2. Driving defensively or getting ticketed.

  3. Yes. Not doing so is stupid. And against the law. And stupid because it surprises people, and a 3000 pound surprise is bad.

  4. If by bitch-slap you mean “not hire,” then yes. His math skills are atrocious. Salesmen need to understand percentages & stuff and he seems to have failed on simple division. Plus, he can’t follow mapquest directions.

I’m confused - you originally say “if he’s hired” then talk about “firing” him.

I wouldn’t fire him for this. I would - if he is not hired - not hire him unless this is the ONLY time he has ever been remotely out of line or your other choices are equally bad. My assumption was that you have X interns or trainees, and at the end of the training period X-Y will be hired. If that is that case, unless the others are worse, I’d put him in the Y pile.

  1. As a function of the speed limit, how fast do you typically drive?

Until recently, 8-9 mph over the limit. Nearly every cop in the US will give you 9. With current gas prices, I don’t drive above 2-3 over, and I take my sweet time getting to that speed. If the needle is moving up, I’m still accelerating, and that’s all I owe the grump behind me. It’s a new world, folks. The way we used to drive is obsolete.

  1. If you generally keep at or below the speed limit, do you do so because you want to save on gas, because you want to drive defensively, because you’re afraid of getting ticketed, or some other reason?

I rarely drive slower, unless following somebody slower, and I’m patient with that. Other than that, it’s to save gas.

  1. When turning right on red, do you come to a complete stop before proceeding into the intersection?

Complete stop. I learned to drive near a jerk cop who loved to pull over rolling stoppers.

  1. Should I bitch-slap this trainee, and if so, how? (If he’s hired, his job will be B2B selling.)

Give him a dope-slap (back of head) and tell him he’s four-fifths gone, and will need to straighten up to get the job.

  1. 5-10 over, often.

  2. When I do keep at or below the speed limit, it’s some combination of fear of ticketing, saving gas, traffic conditions, and of course weather conditions. OR, if I’ve got people following me (as you did).

  3. Yes. It’s my understanding that THAT’S THE LAW. The person who insisted it is CONTRARY TO the law is a moron.

  4. In such a way that you won’t get caught. I’d worry about such a 'tude for someone going into sales.

  1. As a function of the speed limit, how fast do you typically drive?

15% over.

  1. If you generally keep at or below the speed limit, do you do so because you want to save on gas, because you want to drive defensively, because you’re afraid of getting ticketed, or some other reason?

I usually don’t drive at or under the speed limit.

  1. When turning right on red, do you come to a complete stop before proceeding into the intersection?

Absolutely.

  1. Should I bitch-slap this trainee, and if so, how? (If he’s hired, his job will be B2B selling.)

That’s up to you.

He’s shown contempt for ethics by inciting you to break the law and he can’t do math. Not good in a salesman. When he turns up tomorrow, have the security guard tell him that his training has been terminated and he’s not allowed in. If you want to drive the lesson home to the rest of the trainees, have him dragged out after 15-30 minutes - after all, it does take time for the paperwork to be done.

  1. The same speed traffic is doing. Unless it’s too slow for me.

  2. I very rarely know what the speed limit even is.

  3. Well, yeah, I stop because I need to see that there isn’t a tractor-trailer barreling down towards me before I turn. That seems to be sort of common sense,

1-3. What everybody else has said
3. I don’t know that he’s unethical, just ignorant of driving laws. Based on his attitude, crappy math skills, and [apparent] bad driving habits not sure I’d hire him. But since you’re about to smite the earth with your evil wrath I guess it doesn’t matter that much.

ETA: Your list goes 1, 2, 3, 3 – how are your math skills? :eek:

::Runs to basement and bolts all the doors and awaits judgement::