Drunk Kills Nun

[lavenderviolet]

This is a horrible story, but I would imagine that, being a nun, the victim would probably want people to try to have some compassion for the perpetrator. Having worked with people with substance abuse problems, I can imagine that the driver’s story may indeed be more than just some thoughtless idiot. When you see how much misery alcoholics create in their own lives (quite often including their own early death from alcohol-induced disease), it makes you realize how irrational the addiction is. Drugs can turn people who are actually perfectly normal and nice seeming when they’re sober into monsters.
I’m guessing this guy didn’t set out with the intention to hurt or kill anyone. Now he’ll have to live with that for the rest of his life - and I wouldn’t be surprised if he drinks even more because of it.

[Zsofia]

What happened to, god, I forget her name, the young lady who was looking into the nun thing here? She did Couch to 5K with us. Cool girl. I’ll remember her name at 3 AM when I’m not thinking about it. None of which is related, I just wondered.

ETA - something Mossy?

[StGermain]

Zsofia - That’s MissMossie, I believe.

I see that the nun’s are upset that the drunk driver’s illegal status is becoming a news issue.

StG

[rowrrbazzle]

@Brown_Eyed_Girl

Just noting that neither the occupation of the victim nor immigration status of the offender makes this any less tragic. The real tragedy, as Wile E noted, is that we can’t prevent this from happening in the first place.

Not true. We could’ve prevented THIS guy from doing it had been deported or not allowed in in the first place.

[The_Devil_s_Grandmother]

@Brown_Eyed_Girl

What difference does it make that the victim was a nun? Shouldn’t we be equally outraged if the victim was an accountant?

Yes, we should. But the drunk-kills-busload-of nuns or kills-entire-Mormon-family-on-way-to-christening or kills-brave-veteran-who-survived-horrors-overseas is such a stereotype, it’s hard for a journalist to resist.

I’m sorry your badass blondie-bakin’ nun was killed, Spit. Will you take some of the flowers from your garden to the hurt sisters?

[Rick]

@Brown_Eyed_Girl

@shiftless

Well, one does have to wonder how he managed to get a license, get 3 DUIs and have his license revoked all while in the country illegally and yet still be driving around free.

I wonder that every time I hear of yet another repeat DUI offender causing yet another death. Why don’t we just deport them all the first time they decide to drive drunk?

If only there was a state that had a law requiring a check of a person’s immigration status when they were arrested.

[Spit]

@The_Devil_s_Grandmother

@Brown_Eyed_Girl

What difference does it make that the victim was a nun? Shouldn’t we be equally outraged if the victim was an accountant?

Yes, we should. But the drunk-kills-busload-of nuns or kills-entire-Mormon-family-on-way-to-christening or kills-brave-veteran-who-survived-horrors-overseas is such a stereotype, it’s hard for a journalist to resist.

I’m sorry your badass blondie-bakin’ nun was killed, Spit. Will you take some of the flowers from your garden to the hurt sisters?

Unfortunately, 100+ temps and a drought took care of my flowers. We did walk over there last night and express our condolences.

The parents of the drunk driver came down at some point and asked for forgiveness for their son, which was granted.

[Brown_Eyed_Girl]

@Rick

@Brown_Eyed_Girl

I wonder that every time I hear of yet another repeat DUI offender causing yet another death. Why don’t we just deport them all the first time they decide to drive drunk?

If only there was a state that had a law requiring a check of a person’s immigration status when they were arrested.

Who says you need a law? Looks to me like this guy was already on ICE’s radar and was in the process of being deported, but bonded out on his previous DUI charges when he killed the nun.

@rowrrbazzle

@Brown_Eyed_Girl

Just noting that neither the occupation of the victim nor immigration status of the offender makes this any less tragic. The real tragedy, as Wile E noted, is that we can’t prevent this from happening in the first place.

Not true. We could’ve prevented THIS guy from doing it had been deported or not allowed in in the first place.

Sure, I guess since we don’t actually grown our own drunk drivers, the nuns would have been safe.

Maybe the problem is with DUI enforcement and not necessarily just immigration enforcement. Why we don’t lock up DUI offenders and enforce alcohol rehabilitation during lock-up more regularly is beyond me. How exactly does one come to commit multiple DUI offenses and remain free to drink? If bonded out on a DUI charge, why wasn’t he issued an alcohol detection cuff?

[Wile_E]

@Brown_Eyed_Girl

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Maybe the problem is with DUI enforcement and not necessarily just immigration enforcement. Why we don’t lock up DUI offenders and enforce alcohol rehabilitation during lock-up more regularly is beyond me. How exactly does one come to commit multiple DUI offenses and remain free to drink? If bonded out on a DUI charge, why wasn’t he issued an alcohol detection cuff?

Exactly! It seems like most of the time that you hear about a drunk driver killing someone, they’ve always had one or more previous DUI’s. Why do we wait until they kill?

[Dr.Drake]

@rowrrbazzle

@Brown_Eyed_Girl

Just noting that neither the occupation of the victim nor immigration status of the offender makes this any less tragic. The real tragedy, as Wile E noted, is that we can’t prevent this from happening in the first place.

Not true. We could’ve prevented THIS guy from doing it had been deported or not allowed in in the first place.

Not true. You could have prevented it there, is all.

[The_Devil_s_Grandmother]

[QUOTE=Brown Eyed Girl]
Why we don’t lock up DUI offenders and enforce alcohol rehabilitation during lock-up more regularly is beyond me. How exactly does one come to commit multiple DUI offenses and remain free to drink? If bonded out on a DUI charge, why wasn’t he issued an alcohol detection cuff?
[/QUOTE]

I don’t know. Money, I suspect. I can’t find a price for alcohol cuffs on this site, but their main advertising message seems to be “it’s cheaper than jail”.

[QUOTE=Wile E]
Exactly! It seems like most of the time that you hear about a drunk driver killing someone, they’ve always had one or more previous DUI’s. Why do we wait until they kill?
[/QUOTE]

Again, I think it’s media bias. “Repeat Offender Kills Mother and Three Toddlers” is a storey you’re more likely to click on than “Idiot caught, Fine imposed but no injuries”.

[Rushgeekgirl]

@Brown_Eyed_Girl

@Rushgeekgirl

“Man kills woman” isn’t exciting enough.

I guess. Reminds me of a headline I saw recently in our local paper about a carful of youth who died in car crash that read something to the effect of “Local Marine and 3 Others Die in Wreck”. Although there was nothing military related about the car wreck, it seemed important to the paper to mention in the headline that one of the victims was a Marine. They didn’t even mention anything about the “Other” three victims other than the fact that they died.

When my Mig’s best friend was shot to death a few years back they said on the news that it was a gang related crime; a drug deal gone wrong. They focused on the fact that the victim was an illegal immigrant more than anything else. Just another day in the city; two illegals gangbangers fighting over drugs.

The truth was he walked in on his girlfriend having sex with the shooter, who was apparently this girl’s other boyfriend. The shooter put one bullet in his back as he was running away, and again in the head when he was trying to get into his car. I don’t know about the shooter since they never found him, but Mig’s friend didn’t touch drugs, not even weed and he sure wasn’t in any gangs. They had no reason to think it was drug related. They just threw it in to make the story more exciting.

Since then I don’t trust anything I hear on the news, no matter what station. I don’t mean to sound paranoid, but it’s happened too many times.

[Enright3]

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@Brown_Eyed_Girl

Since then I don’t trust anything I hear on the news, no matter what station. I don’t mean to sound paranoid, but it’s happened too many times.

like during this BP Gulf crisis… can’t they shore more than that one stupid pelican covered in oil? And now the oil has mysteriously disappeared. (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/science/earth/04oil.html?_r=2&ref=earth)
I know I’m going to catch a rash of shit for this… but I think this was a story that was blown WAY OUT OF PROPORTION by the media. Yes it was a serious problem, but the scare of it caused way more problems than the actual oil spill did. I went down to beaches in the Gulf Coast twice this summer (a week each time) and never so so much as a drop of oil on the beaches.

[Enright3]

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@Brown_Eyed_Girl

I don’t know about the shooter since they never found him, but Mig’s friend didn’t touch drugs, not even weed and he sure wasn’t in any gangs. They had no reason to think it was drug related. They just threw it in to make the story more exciting.

Since then I don’t trust anything I hear on the news, no matter what station. I don’t mean to sound paranoid, but it’s happened too many times.

This reminds me of advertising in Oklahoma about drinking and driving. It showed a kid’s picture and said something like “This youth was the son of a highway patrolman, and he was killed by a drunk driver.” Yes he was killed by a drunk driver… in a single car accident! The kid was driving drunk and crashed his car.