Of course it is.
It’s just not good enough for an entertaining flame-out.
Still and all, I’m keeping my marshmallows ready for the inevitable.
S’mores anyone?
Thank you. I was beginning to think “Sluts on a Train” was only resonating with me, and that was scary.
Enjoy,
Steven
I hate stupid girls!
…and being bullheaded. Either that or he’s a Cretan who drives a Ford. 
This is not going to be terribly well thought out or anything, and maybe I’m just getting old (32 this month, for the record). But this sort of behavior is going to lead to some very serious consequences. I find it pathetic that girls would do this at all - drunk or not, lesbian or not. The worst part is what it says about our society. These girls actually thought they were doing something cool. Their actions reflect what society is feeding to them, encouraging them to do. This kind of feedback loop is going to result in more and more harassment, rape and molestation. The Victorians may have been uptight but at least their daughters grew up with self respect and the respect of their peers. Guys may clap and cheer these girls on and tell them they are sexy, but ultimately we all know that these girls have revealed themselves to be dirty whores, in the full sense of “dirty” and the full sense of “whore.” The more this kind of shit happens, the more women will be devalued and disrespected. I don’t believe that anyone has to remain a virgin until marriage but I do believe that without some self-respect nobody else will respect you either. Why not grab the crotch of that teenager who is wearing a shirt that says “SLUT”? Obviously she wants that kind of attention. The idea that a teenaged girl should be able to wear clothes that make her look like a prostitute blatantly advertising for customers and NOT get harrassed is preposterous. If this trend of in-your-face whoring continues, who on earth is going to take these morons seriously? Why marry a girl when you can just fuck some random slut begging for it on the train/at a concert/at a bar/at a party? Why not just get them drunk and use them like they so obviously want to be used?
I’ve done some crazy stuff in my wild years and there are a very few things I regret. But ultimately I always acted with some respect for myself. These girls don’t realize that they are undermining the protection that our society gives them that allows them to dress like sluts, act like sluts and still assume that they will be able to walk around safely.
Another thing. Just because standards have changed and a woman can now show some ankle without being disowned from the family does not make all social mores useless. Societal rules have a function that is very important. Without these we are all just animals. Saying that at one time wearing shorts would get you stoned to death is not a good justification for acting in a manner that could get you hurt or killed or ruin your life. Just because someday things might be different does not make these rules unimportant.
Oh no! I have to side with dumb people!
But seriously, I think Wesley Clark is right. Dumb, rude, annoying - sure. Kick 'em off the train. But what the hell were cops doing involved? There was no illegal activity happening, or, at least, none worthy of getting arrested for.
Public intoxication?
Who’s going to kick them off the train? Experience tells me that not many people take conductor threats too seriously. What happens if the conductor says leave and they don’t? Conductor can’t throw them off then. The right call is to have the police, who are trained in handling d&d, meet the train at the station, remove the passengers and take things from there.
I agree, and several years ago witnessed a d&d case kicked off Amtrak’s Capitol Limited, somewhere in Ohio. IIRC, the local PD was involved in making sure he left quietly.
What Ghanima said goes for me, too.
Please excuse me while I briefly hijack my own Pit thread. This will only take a minute, after which we can go back to obnoxious sluts on trains.
:rolleyes:
Oh, heavens - he called me a bitch. Oh, lawdy, lawdy, lawd - whatever shall I do???
Is that the best you can do, bipedal dingleberry?
Ooo… poor baby, had his thread closed… awwwwww… so sad — NOT!
What, you went down to the whorehouse and couldn’t find anyone to give you attention despite a fistful of money? Your housekeeper will do dishes, but not you? Your mail-order bride took one look at you, stamped her ass “return to sender”, and went back to mama?
You’re crass. You’re boring. You can’t even swear in a creative manner…
Do you seriously think that calling me “bitch” is going to get me to join your little (now shut down) party over in GD? Is that how you get people to cooperate with you? Man, in that case you are one socially deficient human being…!
When listing Minotaurus’s deficiencies, “socially” doesn’t even crack the top ten.
Actually, describing him as a human being might also be a stretch.
“crack” does sound about right though.
If you think that wearing provocative clothing condones sexual harassment, that’s pretty fucked up. Whether you were speaking facetiously or not, it’s an important point that the answer to Why not grab the crotch of that teenager who is wearing a shirt that says “SLUT”? is BECAUSE THERE’S NO FUCKING CORRELATION.
They also grew up not being allowed to vote, having to do whatever their father or husband said, and being expected to pump kids out, cook, and clean.
Add me to the list of people who can’t understand why the cops needed to be involved here. If they were being disruptive, kick 'em off the train at the next stop and leave it at that.
And besides, two hours on a train with drunken lezbo sluts is still preferable to 2 hours on a train with other people’s screaming kids…
Standard procedure - if disorderly passengers are being removed from the train and show any sign of possible troublesomeness cops are present to discourage things from getting out of hand, or to deal with things that get out of hand.
Perhaps if one of the SHITLS had not barked out “FUCK YOU! YOU CAN’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! YOU CAN’T THROW US OFF THE TRAIN!” when the conductor said “Gather up your stuff and please follow me” he would not have felt like calling the cops. You want to act like a tough little thug you shouldn’t be surprised when you are treated like one.
- Confronting a gang of drunk and disorderly youth is a good way to risk getting one’s ass kicked.
Police are trained to deal with drunk and disorderly persons; conductors are not to anywhere near the same degree. - Abandoning drunken children rather than leaving them in the care of their parents or other appropriate authorities, such as the police, may open the conductor and the transit line to liability should anything happen to the drunken children.
- The police and the judiciary, not the transit line, are set up to initiate intervention concerning the youth’s behavioural problems (althouth transit lines are also making some efforts in this direction, e.g. the TTC Youth Outreach Project).
Ah, information we did not know.
Martini, in order to keep the train as close to schedule as possible, the best call is for the conductor to have police meet the train at the next station, give a quick incident report, and go back to getting passengers to their destination. If the conductor waits until the train is already stopped, that’s a much greater delay to the passengers who are not being disruptive. Why cater to the disruptive passengers at the expense of others?
And let’s face it, calling the police to assist in the removal of the uncouth youth at the next stop is a heck of a lot easier on the drunks than smacking them in the head and throwing them off the back of the moving train.
Bottom line: keeping the peace is the job of the police.