In olden days a glimpse of stocking…
They’ve most likely established procedures across the board to do just that. Maybe the conductor can control drunk disruptive Paris Hilton clones till the next stop, but what about drunk disruptive football linebackers?
Even with PH wannabes, what if the conductor is not a healthy man or fit female? I know I’ve had my ticket punched (literally, not figuratively) by more than a few conductors who surprised me simply by making it from one end of the car to the other without keeling over.
Why risk getting sued for getting into an altercation with drunks? “Daddy, that man assaulted me by grabbing me and hauling me off the train, which disrubed me so much that I will be in therapy for the rest of my life!” Better leave it to the police.
Ghanima, this is really disturbing me. I like decency in public too, just as much as you do, but you left me behind here. A woman wearing a t-shirt that says “Go ahead, garb my ass, it’s OK even if I say stop it’s OK” still shouldn’t expect to get her ass garbbed. Similarly, one can neither rock nor bowl at Terrace Gardens without committing B&E, Virginia is home to Pat Robertson, 700 Club and Liberty University, so there are at least 40 states more amenable to lovers, and thanks to the 13th Amendment, I am certainly not the property of the Buffalo Bills. A t-shirt can not give informed consent, as John Jay once put it. I do agree that a woman who dresses and acts like a whore deserves to be treated as one: with the respect due to any other individual.
Thanks, I’ll field this one.
When and if I do get married, it will be because I’ve met a woman that I love and want to spend the rest of my life with, and she feels similarly. It won’t be for sex. For some reason, I think this is a better system.
You know what they say:
“Why buy the cow when you can get free slices?”
Do Not Taunt, you only think that until you are actually married. 
You mean after I’ll think, “Damn I wish I’d gotten married for sex instead”?
For the record, I’m a lesbian, have been all my life, and those idiot kids piss me off to no end.
I do have a problem with inappropriate sexual behavior in public, I don’t care what gender does what to whom. These kids deserved to have a cop tell them off, frankly. Maybe they’ll think twice next time they think they’re tempted to commit assholery when drunk. Plus, the fact that they were underage drinkers makes the cops even more pertinent to the issue. Let me just re-emphasize this: sexual orientation has NOTHING to do with being obnoxious. Stupidity comes in a variety of flavors, unfortunately.
I’ve been harrassed by drunk teens for just holding hands with my partner in public. I’ve seen men who are just “perceived” as gay get slapped, punched, called horrific names and otherwise by drunken assholes. I know gay male couples who will NOT kiss in public for fear of being bashed. I do NOT hold hands with my partner outside of San Francisco or parts of Oakland. I worked on the hotline of a GLBT anti-violence group and I only lasted six months-- the average volunteer lasts about a month, since that’s the time the nightmares usually start.
I mention all this because it completely invalidates that asshole-with-an-axe-to-grind Minotaurus. Obnoxious, drunken behavior isn’t linked to anyone’s sexual orientation, asswipe. In fact, I’d put good money on obnoxious, drunken behavior being directed at queers or perceived queers far, FAR more often than obnoxious, drunken same-gender sexual behavior.
To quote Jeff Foxworthy, getting married for the sake of the sex is like buying a 747 for the sake of the free peanuts. 
Yup!
(I sure am glad Mrs. D_Odds does not read the SDMB)
I do understand what you’re saying, and in a perfect world that’s how it would be. But I’m talking about the mixed signals: drunken young women/girls acting like whores for attention but then expecting everyone else to behave themselves. It’s a double standard. I don’t think it’s a stretch for a below-average-IQ person (and that’s about half the population of the world) to see this kind of display and take it as an invitation. Women who behave like this should expect the consequences that come with it. I agree that in the future when we are all riding in flying cars high over our solar-powered cities and we have achieved world peace we can expect to act like horny sluts and not get harassed. But that’s a long ways off. Realistically speaking, these girls are asking for negative attention.
With 4:1 odds? S’cuze me, I wouldn’t willingly walk into that.
Besides - all it takes is one lucky punch or a drawn weapon, or perhaps some martial arts training, and Mr. Conductor is down for the count. You just don’t know. Better to let the cops handle it at the next station than to risk a confrontation in a moving train with limited options for running and lots of potential bystanders to get hurt. At least if all hell erupts at a station the rest of the crowd can evacuate onto the plaform instead of leaping from a moving train.
It’s pretty damn rare, but a couple of times I’ve been on board when things started to get violent. It’s damn scary. I have no issues with how the transit lines around here deal with these things.
Most of the conductors and railway guards I’ve seen here look quite capable of handling themselves in a variety of situations- including throwing drunken footy players/supporters off the train for causing a nuisance. (I’ve seen them do it!)
One of their favourite tricks is to simply take someone’s bag/bicycle/surfboard/whatever and move it to the platform outside. Disruptive person invariably gets off train to recover it, at which point the doors close and the train departs without them. All perfectly legal (some subclause in the ticket contract allowing staff to move “luggage and goods carried on railway” if they believe the item poses a safety risk or threat to the “good order” of the railway. Read the Fine Print, kids! It’s chock-full of legalese goodness!
Are there security cameras on the train there? They tend to do an excellent job of proving Daddy’s Little Princess was being an obnoxious drunk whore, and that the conductor acted appropriately in ejecting them from the train at the next station.
That and trying to sue the railway for emotional distress as a result of kicking you off the train would just result in “HAH!” from all concerned. I doubt you could even find a lawyer willing to take the case… an A Current Affair wouldn’t touch it with somebody else’s 60ft pole, which is generally proof that you’ve got a lost cause on your hands.
Although, given the situation and the location, I can see why it may be necessary to get the police involved.
Must be one of them “Cultural Difference” things we hear so much about… 
No, there aren’t. There are cameras on the platforms, but not on the trains themselves.
Quite likely.
It’s not like the cops get out the batons and proceed directly to beating - most of the time people are just given a warning.
Also keep in mind that, although most people do not carry weapons on board, no one is searched, nor do we pass through metal detectors or other security prior to boarding these trains. It would be pretty bizarrely unusual for someone to pull a weapon, but it could be that unlikely possibility has had an effect on what procedures are standard.
This can stretch pretty far-- should a woman walking home alone at night “expect to be” raped? Can an interracial couple walking around in a racist town “expect to be” beat up? It all comes down to the fact that engaging in behavior not deemed socially acceptable does not ‘invite’ any consequences beyond being found distasteful-- all else is just excuses.
Ghanima does raise a valid point (although I may not agree with her particulars). No, wearing a t-shirt saying “I am a horny slut” should NOT be considered an invitation to rape. However, it is a sad fact of life that there are some very nasty people out there. Likewise, no, it should not be that a woman walking alone after dark is “asking for it”, but that is the mindset of the predator. Part of staying safe in this world is recognizing that this sort of evil person really does exist and really is out there in the world. Good, wholesome men of high moral character, when cronfronted by a drunken “slut” slobbering over them will know better than to “take advantage”, but not every male human is wholesome or possesses morals. Some really would take advantage of such a situation.
And mojave66 raises another point, that these girls may become the target of anti-homosexual violence. Again, there is no excuse for harming people for sexual orientation, but we all know there are people out there who would do it, feel justified in doing, and some of them even probably seek out opportunites to commit violence on homosexuals. One of the reasons I suspect these aren’t real lesibians but bad grrlz play-acting is that real homosexuals, even when intoxicated, are much more aware of the potential for violence and danger.
Of course, nothing of the sort - rape or beatings - happened to these girls. This time. But between pissing people off, giving the impression they are loose women, the girl-on-girl stuff, and the booze they’re putting themselves in a potentially risky situation. 9 times out of 10 the folks around you will be disgusted but they won’t hurt you. That 10th time, though, you just might be in the presence of a psychotic.
Hopefully the train was standing still at the time?
/hijack/
On a more sober note, throwing people off moving trains is sadly a common occurrence in South Africa. Sometimes I just have no words.
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=272761&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__national/
why don’t go and take a dish somewhere
Oh no i forgot, your kind is too busy trying to attack men for about everything you can’t manage by your self.
It’s pathetic to see your kind always trying to show that you are as good as men in everything. You stretch and stretch to be more like men, but you always fail
I can not be easy to have more in common with an orangutan than a man