Dry assed Turkeys of yesteryear.

Is it just me or were turkeys in general way overcooked in the past? I have memories going back a decade or three regarding turkey day.

My recollection is most turkeys were dry dry dry. You NEEDED that gravy to choke down that chunk of meat. Yeah, there was the occasional Uncle Bob who seemed to know how to cook a turkey but most people seemed to be following some simple rule like “cook for 12 hours at 475 and its done! Easy peasy”.

So, is it just me or have Americans in general finally mostly learned to cook a turkey?

everyone learned a valuable lesson from National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation

I think there’s a much wider awareness of the benefits of brining the bird.

Brining and not stuffing the bird. Makes a world of difference.

Also checking the meat’s temperature rather than just going by a time chart or one of those pop-up buttons.

The meat thermometers with markings that give “done” temperatures for different types of meat used to be way off. They would say, for example, that poultry should be cooked to 185 F. In fact, it is done at 160 to 165 F. I still see cooking instructions that tell people to overcook their meat. It’s common, for example, for recipes to say that beef is cooked to medium-rare at 140 F (not 120 or 125 F).

I assume that pop-up buttons were similarly miscalibrated.

I have no problem if the meat is slightly dry; it differentiates real turkey from the sliced crap you get at the supermarket.

But I never brined a turkey and I never had it come out dry. I think the main difference is that they’re cooking at a lower heat then they have in the past.

I’m a big fan of the oven bags. They seem to keep a lot of moisture in and there is no basting (or forgetting to baste)

How sure are you those temperatures are safe, especially for pork or ground beef?

My meat thermometer (probably purchased 10-15 years ago) has this scale:
145 Beef Rare
160 Ground Beef / Beef Med. / Ham
170 Beef Well / Pork
180 Poultry

All I can say is, thank god for cooking bags. My mom can’t cook to save her life, but thanks to cooking bags, the turkey is always reasonably moist. I couldn’t even begin to choke down a piece of white meat as a kid (the dark days, pre-cooking bag ) but now it’s edible.

:eek: I could get meat that hot on the dashboard of my car. I wouldn’t eat it though.

Seanette, you should ignore the suggestions on that thermometer. Pork is perfectly okay if cooked to 150, for example.

You take some steaks/roasts off the heat that early so that they’ll carry over to 130-135, which is medium rare temp.

No offense intended, but do you have a cite for that? I do worry about safety on some meats.

I love those oven bags. Sure, the skin isn’t picture-pretty, but the meat is VERY moist and tasty.

How about the USDA, who say 145 is OK for whole cuts.

Department of Agriculture

I’ll have to check that site for info on poultry and ground beef. Should also probably buy an updated thermometer.

Thanks for the links. :slight_smile:

I’m another vote for the oven bags. Those things work great.

Poultry is 165
Ground beef is about the same, but not as risky.