Duhbya's legacy. Corporate profits way up. Private income down.

Boy, Evil Captor, that’s a remarkably stupid post. Part of my long term compensation is in shares of my company. In the last year or so, the value of those vested shares that I own has increased over $20K. That’s real money that I could recoup by selling them, actual cash dollars. I’m not going to, because I think the stock’s about to split, but implying that that’s a negligable benefit is assinine. It may not seem like a lot to you, but to me, $20k buys a lot of women to tie up and abuse.

Why do I feel that tie up and abuse quip is the truth rather than a joke?

Because you’re obtuse, and generally ignorant of the world around you if it isn’t laid out in a leftie blog for you to get outraged over.

Then why make the quip jerk?

Because I wasn’t making it for you. If I had been, it would have included a phonetic pronunciation guide and hand puppets to explain the meaning of the multi-syllabic words. I was talking to Evil Captor, the SDMB’s resident BDSM one trick pony.

So you think that because your anecdotal experience doesn’t match my general statements, what I said must be stupid. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you WeirdDave, the measure of all things! A stupid measure but a measure in his own mind, at least.

As for that last remark, if you are seriously bugged by my sexual tastes, feel free to start a thread about it and I’ll try to help you out of your ignorance. If it’s just a cheap shot, well, fuck you, asshole.

Nope, I think your “general” statements are stupid. Most people that I know my age and older hold stock that is, to a greater or lesser degree, a part of their retirement plans and/or income generating strategy. Statistics say that most people in the United States also hold stocks, a fact that you poo-pooed without any evidence as a “cheap benefit” and stated, entirely without any citation, that these people don’t “have much to lose or to gain”. In short, it is you who is holding yourself up to be the measure of all things, and without any basis for doing so. You made the statement that stocks were a meaningless part of most people’s portfolios, it’s up to you to justify it.

I personally could care less if you like to bugger badgers. I thought you would be proud someone noticed, since 90% of your posts on this board “somehow” get onto the subject of bondage. I was attempting to use an example of spending the money on something the poster I was responding to (you) liked. I don’t need you to explain anything to me, thanks for the offer. Perhaps your time would be better spent actually engaging in sex rather than just posting about it all the time.

…And the irony award of the day is awarded to Weird Dave! I believe you proved his point for him.

Sam

Dave, I don’t agree with your politics or your position in this thread, but that putdown deserves a round of applause…

How?

Careful observation of your webpage should reveal even to one as obtuse as you that you are in the Pit. In the Pit, cites are not required to make points, as in GD. So your point about cites is pointless. But I’ll take it that your crude and ill-mannered yarping constitutes your version of a request for a cite. So I got one. It’s from the New York Times which only applies to registered visitors, so I’ll extract the relevant portion (it’s from a Paul Krugman column):

Here’s the url for those who’d like to read the whole column

Oh, looks like I called “bullshit” on you pretty well. You are what they call “atypical” and what I call “ajerk.”

Once again, I’m in an excellent position to call “bullshit” on you. In this instance, I did a search of all my posts over the past week. It pulled up 22 posts. One of them, a thread I started in Cafe Soceity called “What new cable channel would you like to see, and what programming would you like to see on it?” proposed the establishment of a bondage channel, so I’ll give you a big “yes” on that one.

None of the other 22 had any bondage content.

The first ten were on topics such as: Favorite movie lines (CS), Martha Stewart in prison (BBQ pit) (just in case your wondering, in this thread I’m arguing that she SHOULDN’T be in prison), Let’s get the MAFIA involved in the war on terror (GD), Law and order CI takes a bad turn (CS), I Pit 46 percent of Australian voters (BBQ), The Bush-Kerry Debate Part 2 (GD), Can Haiti be helped (GD) Bush’s back bulge (GD) What if Bush had given accurate reasons for the Invasion of Iraq (GD) and Martha Stewart Live from the Big House (CS) (in this one, I proposed that she do a piece on how to do laundry in your toilet – once again, no bondage content.)

In short, you appear to be hypersensitive to my rare comments on bondage. I suspect that you have an agenda, Weirddave. I know you’re being a jerk about it. So once again, fuck you.

Nope, sorry, you lose. Again. Idiot. Cites are required anywhere on this board if you want to be taken seriously. You can blather on all you want without cites even in GD, but don’t expect to be taken seriously. This includes the pit. But hey, you found one. Good for you! Now, let’s go look at what it actually says.

Uh-oh. Bad news right off the bat, oh ferocious defiler of women. You linked to an OP-Ed piece. OP-Ed pieces are not “facts”, they are what is known as “opinions”. See, that’s what the “OP” stands for in OP, which is the fucking title of the page you linked to. Still, sometimes Opinion pieces have references in them, let’s read further and see if this one does.

Hmmm. No, I am sorry, there is not one cite in the entire piece. It’s all one man’s opinion (which is probably why it was in the fucking OPINION section of the paper, moron)

Well, then, let’s actually break down and look at the opinion expressed, especially the part you quoted:

Well, that’s refreshing now, isn’t it? Because corporations hold a much higher percentage of the total stock out there than individuals, the portfolios of individuals are meaningless. Bullshit. My stock’s $20K increase in value over the past year is a fraction of a percent of the value of the stock held by the people who own the corporation, but you know what? That’s still pretty good to me. The point that you and Mr. Krugman are willfully missing is that the shares of stock owned by individual investors, as insignificant as they may be when compared to the total number of shares out there, are still of huge import to the people who hold them. The strength or weakness of the market as a whole actually has a much greater impact on these individuals than on large corporations, because many of them don’t have the resources to weather a downturn without it seriously affecting their lives. That’s why your dismissing these stock holdings as insignificant is ignorant in the extreme.

Call me whatever you want, big boy, but you haven’t even come close to calling “bullshit”. Try facts next time, not opinions.

You really should bookmark dictionary.com. The word you are looking for is “hyperbole”. Since that’s another one that you obviously don’t know, I readily concede that “90%” of you posts are not about bondage. Happy now? Honestly, though, I don’t know what you are bitching about. You have the identity that you sought from the moment you registered here, starting with your username. Whenever your name comes up, weather it be at dopefests, in chat conversations or on other SDMB related (unofficial) net venues, you are always mentioned as “That creepy guy who is obsessed with bondage”. You’ve been sowing the seeds of this your entire time here, why are you dismayed that they have come to fruition?

I’m sorry, I just found it ironic that he said your experiences were not representative of the whole and you decided to reply back with a few ad hominems and a comment telling him that his more broad generalizations were stupid.

And yes, stocks are a “cheap” benefit. I probably wouldn’t vest stocks I received as a side benefit of working for a company today. Not only are most diluted to shit, but the AMT just isn’t fucking worth it if the stock tanks.

Sam

Not if the frog doesn’t know it’s getting cooked. Given that the mass media is controlled by a relative handful of companies, and that both of our major political parties are becoming increasingly Orwellian[sup]1[/sup] in their treatment of the public, I doubt the revolution is gonna happen during our lifetimes. :slight_smile:

[sup]1[/sup]In the “manipulating language to hide facts and intent” sense of the word.

All of you are just a bunch of whiners. If you aren’t doing well financially, it’s because you’re a lazy, ignorant bastard. It has nothing to do with the economy.

If you need proof of this, just look at WeirdDave. He’s doing well financially. And if he is doing well financially, that must mean that Bush is doing a fantastic job of running the country. If he weren’t, would WeirdDave be doing well financially? I think not.

And don’t bother me with your silly facts and numbers. I mean, after all, how bad can the economy be when WeirdDave is doing so well?

So does this mean that I’m going to screw it all up when I vote for Kerry? :wally

I too am doing better financially than ever in my life, and I too am voting for Kerry.

I was implicitly referring to your view that the economy is doing well, and that Bush’s tax cuts were given to the correct individuals. But you knew that. :wally