EA Sports. Could I please have my $65 dollars back for NASCAR Thunder 2004?

You bastards. You lazy ass bastards. You’ve been making this game for YEARS! What is the problem, do you people sit around and get high everyday except one where you update the sponsors and drivers, then shrink wrap your games and call it a good year? “Hey look, we incremented the year on the box!” From what I can tell there are 2 new changes. Let’s talk about what hasn’t changed first.

  1. The spotters suck. Actually, all team communications suck. There is no team that berates their driver as much as this game. I don’t need to hear your bitching about fixing the car. I don’t need to hear your bitching about saving the tires. I’m fucking trying, ok! And way to “clear me” after I passed the guy 3 seconds ago. The floaty bubble thing that tell me where the cars around me are is useless.

  2. The goddamn physics suck. Once I start to get loose going into the corner, there is practically no way to save it. You will slide down the hill and into the grass and cause a caution. Do not lift, do not brake, do not countersteer, go straight to the tail end of the longest line.

  3. That’s super cool how you can do burnouts! I bet all the 12 year old boys in PS2 land sit there and just burn tires out for hours on end. Some of us might want to fucking start from a stand still without doing a burnout.

  4. What is the legal problem with beer and dick drugs? I don’t want to drive the “Dale Jr Chevy”. I want to drive the “Budweiser Chevy”. Ditto Miller Light and Viagra and Coors. It’s fucking unrealistic.

  5. If the goddamn race is 20 laps, why do I run out of gas and tires? Maybe I just want to do a shootout, like the Winston (or whatever the fuck it’s going to be called this year).

Now, onto the “improvements”.

  1. Online play

Um, first of all, I don’t have the equipment. Please tell me why I am motivated to get the hardware to play this sucky game with other idiots who are just as frustrated as I am. I bet it sucks too.

  1. Rivals and Allies

Ah! finally, a decent idea. If you rough other drivers up, you get negative Rival points. This means that they will bump you out of the way in the future or even try to wreck you if they’re super pissed. But how do you get them back on your side?

:rolleyes:

The embarassment of the game. “Share drafting”. What.the.fuck. E(at) A(ss) Sports, lets talk about drafting. If I’m following a car, or a car is following me, we’re sharing a draft. Pressing the R2 button and getting a special sound does what, exactly? And since I’m 20 ft behind a guy who hates me and I decide to “Share Draft” his rival points slowly go down until he is an ally. This could have been a terrific feature of the game if the rival points just went down slowly with time, Just like in real life! And this shit is so unbelievable, a guy had 100 rival points, the most you can have, and he flipped himself over trying to wreck me. Right.

You asses had the game right in 2002. What happened? Please email me for my address so I can get my money back. I’m going to buy and Atari and Pole Position. :mad:

That bad, huh? I was kind of worried when I hadn’t heard anything about it. Guess I’ll stick to playing NASCAR Racing 2002 Season on my PC instead of giving EA and Microsoft my money for the Xbox version. Hey, only a few more years on that exclusive deal with EA. :rolleyes:

Isn’t it ironic that NASCAR is really pissed off about the “extracurricular activities” going on during and after the race, but they allow EA to build a game around that same concept?

As for the “kid-friendly” sponsorships, it has to do with restrictions on advertising to children. Same reason you can’t go to Wal-Mart and buy a die-cast with Budweiser on it. DEI even has a separate souvenir trailer with merchandise that doesn’t carry the Budweiser logo at some races (saw it at Bristol.) It only carries stuff with the new JR logo or Chance2 stuff.

Ah, EA Sports, the leader in style over substance. The same company that made an NHL game where it was nearly impossible to actually score. (I stopped playing after a fine game where I made 97 shots with zero goals.) The same company that makes Tiger Woods Golf, where you, too, can shoot rounds in the 50’s.

Without fail, whenever I’ve bought or been given an EA Sports title, I’ve played them for a couple weeks then gave up, finding them either too easy, too impossible, or too mechanical. Granted, the (only) 989 Sports title I ever had was even worse. But so many of the other vendors (Empire Interactive, whoever it is that makes the Championship Manager series, etc.) always seem to offer a more substantial game.

But, hey, the graphics look nice :rolleyes:

Contrast this with the utterly classic Sensible World Of Soccer, in which I managed to beat Brazil in the World Cup final 37-0 with Japan in a 5-minute game. Unable to cope with this level of stupidity, the game promptly crashed :). Man, I loved that game.

Kick off … run upfield … shoot, curve, score. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat…

Yes it is. I wasn’t exaggerating. The 0 car flipped over trying to basically kill me. I admit I laughed out loud at the time, but you make a good point.

I understand where they are coming from, but isn’t ironic I can buy games where I can fuck hookers (GTA) manually break peoples necks (The Getaway) and kill cops (GTA) and hack up people with chainsaws (GTA) etc. but no, let’s not have Budweiser on the damn hood of a race car. It’s ridiculous.

Yeah, the game market is all to hell. I dislike console games as a rule but it looks like they win over PC games.

I’ve had probably 6 or so games that I bought that didn’t work at all in my computer. Due to the new copy right rules, I can’t return opened games.

I have shunned the game market. It’s sad, in my youth I used to pirate games because I could never afford them. Now that I can afford them, I won’t buy any games because most of them don’t work (hint hint, Superpower, Fallout 2 (before the first patch), Shogun totalwar, Master of Orion 3, Star Trek: Star Fleet Command 1 and various other games in the trash).

And to think I spend on average $3500 a year keeping my system up to date and I still play older games like homeworld: Cataclysm and Medievil: Total war. It’s pretty annoying.

$65? Who charged that much? Usually PS2 games don’t cost more than $50 unless they come with something like SOCOM’s headset.

And Duke, if you want a good hockey game, check out ESPN NHL Hockey. Sega’s series has given EA a much needed kick in the butt.

Yeah, that was bad math. I got a wireless card for my desktop and the game and tried to subtract and. . . never mind. Yeah, it was $50 + tax.

I’d like to add something else, while I’m here. My roomate played it last night and he’s not nearly as good as I am. He bumped into and wrecked several cars and with the rival/ally thing, the whole field was pissed at him. He couldn’t make a lap without getting wrecked. It just turned into a demolition derby. Brilliant guys, piss off new comers who might rent the game to see if they want to buy it and then turn it off after 5 minutes because they can’t make a lap.

BTW, I’m going to Talladega on Sunday. Woooo!!!