Easter Bunnies

That’s a good point, but she could have at least pocketed the flyer for later reading instead of giving it to the store employees. Also, (and I know I’m asking a lot here) she should have researched before she made the desicion to promise a bunny to her child. A better option for bunnies everywhere and for the child, would have been to adopt. In adopting, you could find a bunny that is good with children (like a large breed that they couldn’t pick up) and the child could feel good about saving a life. Also, adopting a bunny is cheaper in the long run (b/c they are already spayed and neutered) and they are usually done with their annoying teenage bunny pre-op antics and are easier to care for. Also, most bunnies up for adoption (at least in our area) are less than 2 years old, many are less than a year, so you don’t have to worry about the bunny being too old. (But this is also indicative of how quickly people dump their bunnies.) In all, adopting a pet is a much better example for a child than buying one that’s on-sale for Easter.

And I wasn’t giving her the evil eye as she left, I was slack-jawed and sad. Perhaps I do need to toughen my skin, but if I did that, I may not feel as strongly about the issue at hand.

oops, didn’t mean to quote you twice.

blink blink… People DO that?

I can’t imagine someone saying “Here you go, dear. You are now responsible for a life for the next decade. Make sure you can alter your entire lifestyle to accommodate this living being and be sure to devote much love affection, time, and energy to ensure its comfort and happiness…”

I mean it’s not like a teddy bear and a crepe-paper Valentine.

Acquiring a pet is a big decision, not just a Hallmark moment.

I’ve never heard of such a thing. Do they do that here too (Canada)?

Yeah right! She might actually have to think or learn something! I see this all the time. DH and I breed various reptiles and every year we get some people wanting to buy from us that don’t have the first clue and refuse to listen to advice. The first year we would sell to these people & give them tons of information to read, inevitably we would get a call from them saying their gecko/snake died. Upon questioning we found that they had done everything wrong (we even had one person that tried to feed a corn snake crickets!) despite all the information we gave them. Now, no one gets one of my babies without first demonstrating to me that they have done their research… and even then, if I don’t like you, I won’t sell to you…

People that don’t research a pet (any pet) annoy the hell out of me… how hard is it to pick up a damn book or do a search online?

Well, in our family, we DO sometimes give pets as gifts. However, we always inquire as to whether the intended recipient WANTS a pet, and we already know whether the recipient knows how to take care of the animal. The local Humane Society is more than happy to sell gift certificates good for an animal adoption (it specifies which sort of animal). This way, the recipient has an envelope to open, and something to hold, and the giver doesn’t have to worry about hiding the animal until it’s time to be given.

My daughter and I sort of want another kitten. My husband has made it VERY clear that he didn’t want a kitten for Christmas, his birthday (Feb 7) or Valentine’s day. Partially because he really isn’t into cats, and partially because he knows that my daughter will seize any excuse to bring home another kitten. But I think that we really have the right number of cats in our home right now…we have two adult cats, about 4 years old, and they get along very nicely with each other. I’m hesitant to upset the balance in any way.

But a kitten WOULD be a lot of fun. I adopted my cat as a young adult at the Humane Society. I wish that I’d been able to enjoy her kittenhood, but sometimes that’s just how things work out. Someone had decided that they didn’t want an adult cat once she’d grown out of her kittenhood, and brought her in. Then the cat counselor wouldn’t allow them to adopt another kitten, as she didn’t want to see the new kitten coming back to the HS in 10 months or so. :smiley:

Our humane society does the gift-certificate thing, too: in fact, one of the ways to get yourself denied during the adoption application is to state that you’re adopting an animal as a gift for someone else. We don’t play like that.

I once lived with a woman who kept her dog in absymal conditions: this huge dog lived her whole life in a 10x15 pen in the back yard, was taken out of the pen maybe once a week for a quick walk. She was terrified of men; the two times I tried to take her for a walk, she escaped, and I spent literally hours trying to coax her home.

One day, another of my housemates was depressed, and so the first woman very excitedly presented the depressed housemate with a present: a six-week-old kitten.

The depressed housemate was…speechless.

The kitten went back to its mother the next day.

People can be phenomenally stupid.

Daniel

Okay, no that makes a little more sense to me. See you are a responsible adult and pet owner, and you are choosing a pet as a gift with full knowledge that the recipient is able to care for it, responsible enough to care for it, you know the recipient wants it, you know the environment is stable and safe, and that the household is prepared for one.

For some reason when I read “got a bunny for Valentine’s Day”, I pictured some guy asking “will you be my Valentine?” while handing me a dozen roses and a guinea pig.

My experience is that this is the rule, rather than the exception. I agree there is a lot that can be said about the evils of pet stores, but viewing it from the other end, a lot of pet owners don’t have much to be proud of either.

Relying upon anyone to do your footwork for you, is going to get mixed results at best. I understand shopping on a budget, but when the first words out of a potential pet owner’s mouth is, “What’s the cheapest…”, chances are the cheaper pets probably aren’t for you either. Vet bills on any animal can become expensive, and if you haven’t taken that into consideration, you’re probably better off with a Gund (stuffed animal).

The reasons people don’t want to read the caresheets being handed out, are the same reasons they don’t want to follow good advice. It’s not easy. Taking care of most animals properly involves daily maintenance, and there’s really no way around it, no matter what someone may tell you. People don’t want to hear that a rabbit/guinea pig/small animal, needs its enclosure cleaned daily. You can explain it’s so much easier to clean out the potty corner, rather than smell the lovely ammonia wafting from their urine until you get around to it.

I had a mother and daughter I explained this to about a guinea pig. I guessed the daughter’s age around 5, and said while there were some advantages to having a pet that size, as opposed to a hamster that could be more easily damaged by squeezing from less honed motor-skills of said 5 yo., there was also a considerable amount of daily cleaning involved. The mother assured me that she would enjoy this task, and since the animal’s enclosure would be in the daughter’s room, it would be difficult to ignore. Cut to 2 months later and a scowling father, with 5 yo. He asks me what he should do, since his daughter hasn’t been cleaning the cage, and the guinea pig seems unhappy. You bet the guinea pig was unhappy, what kind of hell hole must that cage have been, since the guinea pig had maggots coming out of its anus? You know, maybe taking it to the vet? Maybe actually cleaning the cage somewhere near the daily regimen you said would not be a problem for you to adhere to?

The pet stores that sell kittens and puppies, are a bad idea in my experience, though I did work in a store where we had the humane society in on most weekends, with animals ready for adoption. Too bad the number of stores that sell puppies and kittens, doesn’t even begin to compare with the number of pet owners not spaying or neutering their animals. Then coming down to the pet stores and trying to give them away, often not even weaned. When asked to leave the premises, it’s the sob story of how the husband or wife is going to kill the litter and get rid of the “offending” pet that had the gall to become pregnant in the first place. Your problem is not with the pet store or the animal, it’s you and your fool of a spouse, for thinking you could actually take care of an animal in the first place. They don’t want to hear it though, not even when you have a list of clinics who can provide the operation for around $30.

“What’s the cheapest bird you carry?” :::eyeballing finches and parakeets::: Yes, they are initially inexpensive, but they really are happiest in a good sized cage, like this one. Customer begins eyeing the travel cages, just about the size PetSmart and PetCo tell them is a good starter cage. At this point they are sure you are trying to rip them off, nevermind the cage is just big enough for one parakeet to take three hops sideways in. You guessed it, if I were a bird, I’d want to live in that small cage as well. Once you get those food and water dishes in there, a toy, perhaps a cuttle bone or some gravel, that place is going to be so cozy! It doesn’t matter that I keep disagreeing with you, eventually you will leave, and run to another pet store that will agree with you and buy the pet there. Good for you, and when you begin to have problems and come to me, don’t think I won’t remember you’re one of the “cheaper” people, and so will take all the wonderful things you did for your pet and you just can’t understand what happened, it was so awful, with a grain of salt.

Same thing with fish, no it doesn’t matter that there’s no way you should buy that catfish, it will outgrow your tank in less than a year. No feeding hamburger or bread is not okay in a pinch, yes, no matter what that product is the other pet store carries, you really do need to change your water more often than once every 6 months. The fish waste will be broken down no doubt, but it only breaks down so far, eh? Where is it going after that? Fairies are not scooping the stuff up and leaving quarters in the gravel, last I checked. Replacing water as it evaporates does not count as a water change either.

Reptiles are the worst. Here’s the ego pet, if ever there was one. Ever wonder why you don’t see breeders walking around with snakes wrapped around their necks? It’s plain not a good idea. There’s a reason people feed pre-killed food, there’s a reason c.b. on an animal for sale makes it more expensive. Sure, they’re relatively easy to care for, but running to the pet store on a regular basis for crickets or other food items proves too much for most people. Breeding food items at home lasts almost as long as the interest in the pet. Once again, no, I will not tell you it’s okay to just give them a hot rock, no matter what you saw another store or friend doing. No, hamburger is still not a good idea, you’ll have to touch a cricket in all likelihood, sorry to break it to you.

“My dog barks all day long, what should I do?” Hey look, it’s a lab chained up in the back yard 24/7. How about giving the thing some attention. How about a walk. One girl I worked with, after having all of her suggestions shot down, actually told the owner to shoot it. Of course she wasn’t serious, but I actually understood her frustration, and wondered if I’d rather be put out of my misery than have the person as an owner.

“My cat looks like it’s having a horrible time urinating, what should I do?” Why are you asking me? Why were you not on the phone with a vet the minute you noticed this? Why, now that I’m telling you to call the vet, are you still looking for ways to avoid doing this? I don’t mind discussing the better brand cat foods, and ways some of these problems might be avoided, like not letting your cat eat the grocery store brand dog food “cuz he lurves it.”, but guess what, you still need to spend some money and take it to the vet.

I have tons of horror stories of abused and neglected animals, more involving maggots - Whee!, and just plain grisly deaths. Feathers and feet chewed off from being left alone day after day. Stories that came up about once a month at least. The two above paragraphs are often a daily occurence. There is no magic bullet, you have to do the work yourself. Some things will make it easier, but you still have to get in there and use some old-fashioned elbow grease. People blame it on the pet stores, but they want the quick and easy way, and keep asking, until someone agrees with them, that their way is best. The animal suffers for it, and the responsibilty is placed upon the pet store worker. Where does their responsibility end and yours begin?

Sometimes I swear that it should be mandatory to take a course to be certified and licenced to be a) a parent or b) a pet owner.

People just don’t get it – it’s alife not a toy.

I could google, but what the heck-

What do corn snakes eat?

The obvious answer is corn. However, AFAIK milk snakes don’t drink milk, nor do hog snakes eat pigs.

Back To The OP–

I’m with you Coulbeans. However, it’s tough to talk to strangers about this without coming off as a raving PETA zealot. Have you considered going to the local news about this? When Disney’s live action 101 Dalmations was released, both local and national programs did segments on why Dalmations were not good with kids or for kids and were exceedingly high maintenance pets and that folks shouldn’t rush out and get one.

I also think you might be more successful with an approach that played up the work and money needed to keep the rabbit live and healthy, rather than one that asks people to be generous or responsible. Appealling to folks cheapness, laziness, and fear of having to explain to their tot why Mr Fluffy won’t wake up will probably be more successful.

I suspect many of these customers look at their rabbit purchase the same way they look at renting a video game- You play with it until you get bored, then return it (or bury it in the backyard) and then forget about it.

Wow, a lot gets posted in one day.

Yes, he did it. But he knew that I wanted a pet and I had said something about rabbits. I didn’t think he’d really do it, but he did. It was a last ditch desparate effort to keep me with him after 3 years. I guess he was making up for all the other birthdays, Valentines, anniversaries, and Christmases when he did NOTHING. In a bit of poetic justice, the rabbit made me finally realize what I wanted to do with my life (be a vet) and once I knew that I knew I was gonna leave his sorry stoned ass in my dust and broke up with him. Hence, his last ditch effort led to me finially ending the relationship. Nice isn’t it?

to chichlidiot, people are phenominally stupid. I’m not looking forward to dealing with that kind of stuff when I’m a vet, then again, when I’m Dr. Coulbean maybe they’ll listen. As far as fish go, I can’t believe that people can’t even keep Betas alive. I don’t trust myself with any other type of fish, because I know I’d kill it. But I had a Beta that not only outlived a week, it lived for 2 1/2 years! It’s not that hard!!!

The local news does cover some House Rabbit Society activities. I couldn’t really do something like that without invading on their territory. They strive for as much publicity as possible. I volunteer with them as much as I can. It’s a really active chapter, headed by an amazing woman who devotes her life to it. I’ve put together a posterboard for the vet clinic I work at with some basic rabbit info and pictures of some of the rabbits up for adoption for Adopt a Rescued Rabbit Month which is February. I will set out flyers before Easter.

Here’s an interesting new story… At the clinic tonight, a woman looked at my poster and said “I have rabbits. They run freely around my ten acre property. Been doin’ it for 10 years, never had a problem.” Did she ever stop to think that this is irresponsible? Never mind the rabbits… who can easily be picked of by a predator, are sususptable to numerous illnesses, and probably have ear mites and fleas out the wazoo… BUT they are digging holes, creating warrens, and reproducing. Ask the Australians if letting rabbits lose is a good idea. They’ve been trying to get rid of them for years. She was talking about domestic rabbits, not wild ones. (Domestic rabbits are, incidentally, the same species as the European wild rabbit which are the rabbits in Australia. But that opens a whole new rant on human irresponsibility.) Did she stop to think that maybe these rabbits would cross over into her neighbor’s property? That they might eat their garden and cause a disturbance? Obviously not.

ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGG, once again.

Pets are not disposable. It’s that simple. Even something like a fish. I’m seriously considering getting a betta, and have been reading up on the care of them. It doesn’t sound that difficult, but I don’t want to screw up and kill the fish.

I gave up my cat for adoption a year ago because I couldn’t take proper care of him in this house (I had to move very suddenly) due to the dogs. Poor guy would’ve been terrorized. That was HARD. But he was MY RESPONSIBILITY. And if I’m not in a position to see to the well-being of my animals, I have to make sure they go to somebody who IS. I miss him, but at least I don’t have any reason to feel guilty about the whole thing.

I volunteered for awhile with a local adoption group and they, too, would deny you adopting an animal for a pet – UNLESS the intended recipient knew about it and was there in person to pick out the animal. No surprise puppies, thank YOU. Good God, puppies are SO MUCH WORK, I don’t ever want one, and I love our dogs to pieces.

I got my first rabbit as a birthday present. I’d asked for one. (I can’t imagine the horror of getting a pet as a gift I didn’t want! I’d feel so guilty about the poor rabbit, handing it back and saying “No thanks”)

I’d read up on how to look after rabbits and had all the stuff I would need. My mother would never have given me a pet she didn’t think I could look after.

I think what you are doing is great. People shouldn’t be buying pets they don’t know how to look after propally.

People working in pet shops should know what they’re doing too though. For yet another birthday I wanted a hamster. When I went to the pet shop with my mum I got 2 dwarf hamsters.

Me - “And you’re SURE they’re both males, right?”
Employee - “Yeah.”

He was VERY wrong. Hamster George became Georgina, and I then had MANY hamsters to look after. I kept them all.

I usually don’t engage in gratuitous bumping, but I’ll make an exception in this case.

BUMP.
Easter’s coming.

And to add to the “don’t buy little bunnies” message, let me add duckies to the list. I had a little duck when I was little, and I loved him dearly. However, one day, he was out playing with me and my next door neighbor in the front yard. My next door neighbor was riding one of those electric cars, didn’t watch where she was going (hell, she was like 3 years old) and ran my little ducky over. He survived, but barely. Once he was healed, he immediately escaped out of the backyard. Can’t say that I blame him.

But I still miss my ducky.

Coulbean, I admire the cause, and I hope you saw the ‘Mutts’ comic strip last week that touched on this subject.

But I see the scenario this way…

“Hello, I’m a complete stranger of unknown veracity approaching you and your child unasked in an attempt to effect your purchasing decision. God alone knows who I am and what my ACTUAL reason is for breaking your privacy barrier. I could be anyone from who I say I am to Charles Manson with a bunny suit. Would you like a flyer?”

That’s not proper marketing for the cause.

Far better to pursue the public relations angle with local news or the humane society.

I’ve done a fair amount of volunteer work at the big chain stores as a Greyhound rescue volunteer. And I know that the get togethers where we’re standing outside handing out flyers (with the dogs in tow) are MUCH less effective than when we got the whole booth set up inside the store with posters and such. Those are the ones that moved dogs off the tracks and into homes.

So, again, I salute the cause and hate the method. There’s got to be a better way.

Bunny story of the somewhat scary kind.

My dad was a veterinarian, and one year a gentleman came in with a bunny from the local humane society. My dad was always big on them, and, IIRC, gave the guy a discount on the initial exam, saying he’d cut the cost of some of the basic injections the little guy needed. The man refused, saying he’d come back later for said things.
A month later, the guy comes back with bunny. My dad looks at it, and thinks to himself, “I don’t -think- this is the same rabbit…”, but he’s got a busy practice, it was a month previous… Again, he offers the injections, the guy refuses, says he’ll come back in a month.
Guy comes back in a month, and this time my dad’s SURE it’s not the same rabbit. He engages the guy in polite conversation durring the exam, and finds out the sickening truth.
This guy is going to the humane society once a month, getting a rabbit, getting it checked by a vet to make sure it’s ‘safe’, then taking it home and eating it.
My dad said he felt sick. He, of course, immediately called the humane society and told them never to help this guy ever again. He also refused to give the rabbit back to the man. The rabbit eventually ended up back in the society’s shelter. The man threatened legal action, but never contacted my father again.

Holy crap!

And when folks ask why we shelters charge an adoption fee, here’s a great story to explain it. We really prefer not to be thought of as a source for cheap meat, Dog Meat Soup notwithstanding.

Daniel

ROTFLMAO. That is FUNNY! Was he paying your old man? I can see keeping the bunny if he was taking advantage of his charity on vet services. Otherwise it was a shitty thing to do.

Of course, if the bunnies get really pissed, they can fight back