Eating/drinking sugar does not give you diabetes!

Exactly - It’s like when I walk into the diner, and order three over easy eggs, grits, patty sausage, and biscuits and sausage gravy, and my wife tells me she can actually hear my arteries hardening.

Crap - now I’m hungry.

As just mentioned in your “Ask the …” thread, “excessive carbs” is a excessively simplistic. Excessive simple and refined carbs. Large amounts of carbs package in real foods with fiber are protective from developing type 2 diabetes.

DSeid, that study reads to me like having fiber protects from some of the effects of the glucose on the blood sugar, not that carbs and fiber protect you from type 2 diabetes. I’m not a doctor or anything, but the simpler response would be to stop eating so many carbs rather than trying to shield yourself from them with more fiber.

Also, this just in- heart attacks do not actually come on plates.

That study showed that a diet high in real foods that are high fiber reduces insulin resistance in at risk individuals. It is just one example of a large body of work that demonstrates that such a diet is associated with reduced risks for diabetes and heart disease. The mechanism does seem to specifically include the fiber, as demonstrated both by studies that increase soluble fiberand demonstrate improved insulin sensitivity, and those that compare isoenergetic diets that differ only in the balance of high cereal fiber (HCF) carb versus high protein (HP) and show improved insulin sensitivity in the HCF group.

To emphasize - in that last study the diet with more carbohydrate, but high fiber carbohydrate, had better insulin sensitivity that the diet with less carbohydrate and more protein.

Please note, the intent of this post is merely to disabuse the notion posited here that carbs per se add to type 2 diabetes risk, not to advocate for or against any specific diet plan. High fiber carbs are protective against diabetes risk, at least in part due to the fiber itself, and likely also do to other factors that travel with fiber in those foods. Carbs are no more evil than is fat or protein. The issues are what sorts of each and in what balance, and, for all I know, there may different best answers for different people.

As far as the op goes, yes, a diet long term high in simple carbs, and giant sodas are a poster child for that, is, over time, “Hello diabetes!” if you have any genetic predisposition for it at all. Getting kids hooked on candy and sweetened beverages as a matter of habit, as much of our society does, will indeed give many of them diabetes. Not that minute but cut people some slack for a little hyperbole.

Dear grude

I know! That’s the worst thing in the history of humanity!

Signed,

Hyperbole

It really is worse than Hitler! But for some people they are starting to believe it, humor turned to urban legend.

The point is that not all carbs are equal. 12 ounces of Coke has around the same number of carbs as a large banana. 4 Oreos have the same number of carbs as a cup of cooked steel-cut oats. Though some diabetics go the route of going ultra-low-carb, the majority of doctors and diabetics go with a diet that contains healthier carbs rather than no or ultra-low carbs.

Huh; that reminds me of a news story I read many years ago. Some woman spent decades consuming nothing but egg whites and white wine, and managed to inadvertently discover her very own vitamin deficiency disease by running out of a vitamin that no one else has ever managed to run out of. Because the vitamin in question is so common and needed in so small an amount that only such a limited, odd diet continued for so long would deplete the body’s reserves (supposedly, even the occasional glass of red wine would have held enough, for example). Not particularly relevant, but interesting to me.

Maybe it was bread? I can’t remember which biography I read that in.

Missed the edit window. But apparently my “remembry” was wrong.

So, I think we can distill down a proper response to the thread title:

Yes, it does.