Emphasis added. I don’t believe she ever exhibited symptoms. If she did, this would be a much different story.
Bowling is a public sport, usually played in a public bowling alley, with friends, surrounded by strangers. People interacting with people. Eating, drinking, shaking hands, using the restroom facilities, opening doors, etc.
Healthcare workers in the U.S., who have access to the proper protective gear and have been trained in how to don and remove their protective gear have become ill from ebola. No bowling balls were involved.
Two people. Who were dealing with someone in advanced stages of the disease. Not someone who’d just started to develop a fever.
How about unhorribly contagious? The various states and hospitals are still trying to come up with a working plan that will both protect the public and make the quarantine more palatable to the quarantined. It takes time. Ryan Boyko managed to survive his 21 day quarantine without the public whining of Hickox.
Then there’s no problem and people who have been exposed to ebola should self-determine whether they should seek treatment, or tell the healthcare staff that there might be a possibility of ebola exposure. Go ahead and take a train, bus, plane, or taxi. Everyone else can just take care of themselves. If the public wanted a chance, the public should have gone somewhere else.
Was Mr. Boyko parked in an unheated tent in a parking lot with nothing to wear but a paper gown, no sanitary facilities, and nothing to occupy his mind?
If Ms. Hickox hadn’t been treated so shabbily perhaps she wouldn’t have reason to “whine”.
For this reason, everybody in the US will now be placed in solitary quarantine for the next 21 days. Hey, there have been Americans traveling around infected with Ebola. How do we know everyone in the US doesn’t have it by now?
Better safe than sorry. :rolleyes:
Posted in another thread, but it belongs here as well - the current CDC guidelines on “monitoring and movement” of people exposed to Ebola:
Interesting that her bike ride yesterday that caused a bit of a kerfluffle actually does conform to CDC guidelines for someone in her risk category. I’m guessing she’s following what the CDC says. Looks like Maine is allowing her to as well without actually stating as much.
So the only options are “do nothing” and “concentration camps”?
I believe there should be some kind of compromise somewhere between the two. But compromise has become a bad word. Some people have been objecting to any quarantine of someone exposed to ebola and had a higher than normal temp reading. I’m in favor of a temporary quarantine until the medical experts, those who are actually playing with the lab equipment and not the political spin doctor that Obama anointed as ebola czar, find a cure.
The hospital’s first effort at quarantine of someone who was exposed to ebola (it was just reported on CNN that someone at CDC stated at the Maine court hearing that Hickox’s Doctors Without Borders roommate has ebola) and mistakes were made or their efforts could have been better. I suppose the hospital will soon have it’s own Kaci Hickox memorial wing built as soon as a few hundred million can be found to build it.
Hickox was placed in a makeshift tent, with a toilet, and had the choice of take-out or hospital food. I haven’t heard of Hickox being cold (except emotionally 
). Blood tests take days for cultures to grow. The initial reading didn’t find ebola but the final results wouldn’t have been available for some time.
It was an unheated tent in New Jersey in late October, and she only had a paper hospital gown to wear. What kind of a moron needs to be told that’s chilly?
The “toilet” was a camp toilet. Basically, a bucket with a seat and a tight fitting lid.
There were NO bathing facilities. Where she was expected to stay for days.
How the frack is that decent treatment?
When her temperature returned to normal after the one at the airport (which was made with an instrument less reliable than an oral thermometer) she should have been released, as a temp rise followed by a drop with no symptoms is NOT Ebola. You don’t need a blood test to use your brain.
To me all this hype is interesting, because in Virginia we’re currently monitoring not one or two people (and making a giant kerfluffle of it)… we’re monitoring eighty-one. And these are people who actually recently traveled from Guinea, Sierra Leone or Liberia, some of the worst hit countries.
And the CDC is notifying us of an additional traveler or two every day.
Yet somehow we’re managing to do it without tents, helicopters, state troopers and media circuses.
Ya’ll are just silly. 
Regards,
-Bouncer-
PS: Citey-cite-cite-cite: Virginia actively monitoring travelers
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Hickox has whined about everything else but you believe she forgot to mention she was cold because it was so obvious to you???
We should be throwing these people fucking parades, not locking them up for three weeks. Sure, maybe you’re reducing the risk of transmission from .01% to .001% or something, assuming some margin of error for what we know about how ebola is transmitted before symptoms are present. But that speculative benefit is easily outweighed by discouraging people from presenting for evaluation and, more importantly, discouraging doctors and nurses from volunteering abroad.
The NJ Hickox’s case was the result of a very recent procedural change and Hickox was the first person that met the updated criteria. Hickox has also forced the Maine court system to deal with her self-serving bullshit.
As I understood it, the CDC had also been monitoring the people who flew with the nurse that the CDC had originally said it was OK for her to fly. Even after the nurse informed the CDC that she wasn’t feeling well. Mistakes have been made. This ebola-in-the-USA is a really new experience and people are feeling their way along.
I listened to Rachel Maddow interviewing Boyko and it was very clear he was pissed off about what happened. But, yes, he got to stay in his apartment so now we know, people unnecessarily confined to their home are slightly less outraged than when they’re confined to a tent.
Yes, that just what “we” need. The concentration of possibly contagious people in parade form. What could possibly go wrong?
If you’re on board with the parade concept, I will accept some kind of pope-mobile device for the potentially infected.
Works for me. I just wouldn’t want them to parade in my town.
Dallas Presbyterian hospital did a shit job of taking care of Duncan, and their arrogance and refusal to admit they were not equipped with the proper PPE or had properly trained their staff to use it resulted in two transmissions. I wouldn’t go there for ebola treatment, either. I’d happily go to any of the other hospitals that have successfully treated it, which would be all of them.
Exactly.
Nope. Not a *single *person who was wearing the proper PPE was infected. Two nurses who were not wearing the proper PPE, and who were instructed to put porous tape around their necks to jerry rig their improper PPE and provide care like that were infected.
Quarantining people with an elevated body temperature (which is not technically a fever yet) and no other symptoms IS a compromise. In an ideal world, only those symptoms which actually increase the risk of transmission by casual contact would be quarantined. Quarantining people with a mild fever is the compromise. I’m perfectly okay with that compromise, as it quarantines people before they’re contagious. That *is *acting with an abundance of caution.
And Kaci is finally a free woman, under monitoring and communication with state officials for travel so that monitoring can be uninterrupted. The judge denied the state’s request for forced quarantine, on the grounds that it’s not scientifically or medically indicated: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/80060d5318a5480f8bd8bef6a2c0bb00/life-goes-nurse-standoff-over-ebola