Breaking news now. Thomas Eric Duncan, the man being quarantined for Ebola in Dallas, died Wednesday morning.
Maybe I’m just being nit-picky because it’s Fox, but I hardly think 7,500 people makes it a pandemic.
Nor do twelve Klingons constitute a swarm.
Would this guy have likely survived if the ER hadn’t turned him away twice?
My understanding is that even with the best of care, the fatality rate is over 50%.
Poor guy. I was really hoping he’d pull through. 
He wanted to be a U.S. citizen someday.
I’m guessing he’ll be headed straight to the creamatorium. Don’t breath the air in Dallas this week!
Pretty sure he’s not the kind we want.
What sort of clown:
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[li]helps a deathly ill woman in Liberia in the midst of the world’s worst outbreak of Ebola?[/li][li]Promptly flies across 3 continents?[/li][li]Doesn’t make it very clear that he’s from Liberia when he goes to the hospital because he’s feeling bad- just says he’s been to Africa recently? He also apparently didn’t spend a lot of effort making it clear that he just left the same place where the world’s worst outbreak of Ebola was currently going on.[/li][/ul]
The silver lining for him is that now he probably won’t be charged for having lied on that Ebola questionaire.
Let’s just hope none of his medical personnel gets sick.
A nurse in Spain got Ebola caring for a patient.
I think three have died in Western hospitals so far? Two in Spain and now the one in Dallas.
He knew he might’ve been on the hook for Ebola when he came to the U.S. But considering he was helping in Liberia when medical facilities turned away that deathly ill PREGNANT woman, he probably also knew if he got sick over there, he was done. I’m sure he thought if he got sick, his only chance would to be in a U.S. hospital.
He did a crappy thing by coming over - but I won’t judge him too harshly.
I’m waiting for Fox News to blame Obamacare for his death.
I wonder how harshly the parents of the five school children currently under quarantine for having contact with him are judging him? Probably pretty fucking harshly. It was a selfish, stupid, and now completely futile act and I hope no one else decides “Fuck everyone else, I’m getting me some American healthcare!”
As much good as that did him.
StG
Basically no one in Africa was getting the best of care.
Before him 100% of the people with ebola treated in American hospitals survived.
Hard to say, as there is no definitive treatment for Ebola, just supportive care. Earlier admission might have resulted in earlier access to experimental drugs or treatment, but at this point we don’t really know if those treatments help, hurt, or don’t matter.
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What sort of clown:
[li]helps a deathly ill woman in Liberia in the midst of the world’s worst outbreak of Ebola?[/li][/quote]
She was a pregnant woman, and not everyone ill in Liberia has Ebola. There has been considerable news stories about pregnant women in Liberia not being able to get needed care, in some cases dying in childbirth.
What kind of “clown” helps a pregnant woman in distress? Someone who actually gives a damn about their fellow human beings. Granted, that sentiment might be inconsistently applied but he didn’t run away in abject fear like some people have.
There has also been some question raised about whether or not Duncan knew the woman had Ebola or not. Frankly, I don’t have the information to sort that out. We know NOW that woman had Ebola, but hindsight is, as they say, 20/20. What did he know at the time?
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[li]Promptly flies across 3 continents?[/li][/quote]
How many flights are directly from Liberia to the US? Having to transfer between planes is a common feature of travel, I don’t think the guy deliberately set out to touch down in as many airports as possible along the way, it’s just a common routing for travel. If taking a standard commercial route makes someone a “clown” there are tens of millions of “clowns” traveling world-wide every year.
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[li]Doesn’t make it very clear that he’s from Liberia when he goes to the hospital because he’s feeling bad- just says he’s been to Africa recently? He also apparently didn’t spend a lot of effort making it clear that he just left the same place where the world’s worst outbreak of Ebola was currently going on.[/li][/quote]
He DID state he was from Liberia. The nurse at the hospital dropped the ball on that one, and possibly the medical records software used needs a better way to flag important information.
So… basically your definition of a “clown” is someone who helps a pregnant woman in distress, travels to see his financee and her family prior to marriage (that has been the reason given for his US travel and he did stay with the mother of his child while here), and, when he started feeling ill went to a hospital ER and truthfully stated that yes, he’d recently come from an area with a very serious disease outbreak.
Maybe there was an aspect of “gee, if I go to the US and get sick I’ll have a better chance” but based on what information I’ve been able to glean out of the soundbites the trip to the US was planned in advance of his exposure to Ebola.
I think he’s a guy who got unlucky and has now died of a disease.
Yeah, it sucks other people were exposed but so far no one else has fallen ill. Let’s hope that continues through the end of next week, after which (from what I can tell from reading the CDC information) the danger of anyone falling ill pretty much ends.
Possible second case of Ebola in Frisco - a suburb just to the north of Dallas
I’d wait and see. So far every other suspected Ebola patient has turned out negative. This guy claims to have had contact with the deceased, but it’s not clear how.
Just to nitpick, the hospital dropped the ball for sure with respect to recognizing that he’d been to Liberia, but he wasn’t turned away. He was misdiagnosed and given antibiotics. A few days later he was brought back to the hospital where he was immediately quarantined.
From what I’ve heard thru the physician grapevine here, if you have to have Ebola, you want to be an American in an American hospital. The thinking is that Americans are better-nourished and unlikely to have parasites or other items that will result in an immune system less able to fight off the virus.
This may be total jingoistic nonsense, though.