Edge of Tomorrow

Brian Phillips of Grantland made an interesting point about this movie: It’s the most realisitic video game yet set to a movie:

I haven’t seen it, but I read that it actually got pretty decent reviews. I think they expect it to be profitable once the overseas take is accounted for.

I also liked Oblivion so I’m sure I’ll see it eventually. Actually, in spite of his personal weirdness, there aren’t many Tom Cruise movies I haven’t liked. Maybe that stupid spy one with Cameron Diaz.

I actually thougth “Knight and Day” was kinda clever - not great - but clever.

Oblivion - I rewatched part of it last nite - it tries to hard I think - but it had elements in it that were quite good.

That’s exactly how I felt after watching that ending. It looked like the original movie had both Cruise and Blunt sacrifice themselves to save humanity (she said something like “neither of us is getting out of here alive”), and that was the end of the movie, but after screening it with audiences who hated the lack of happy ending, they just slapped on that happy ending that made no sense. (If the Omega is killed on day X, why does Cruise re-incarnate on day X-3 just as he is landing in England and why is the Omega dead in this new version of day X-3?)

I saw Edge of Tomorrow yesterday and really enjoyed it–Tom Cruise changing from a coward into a skilled soldier, the J company working together, etc. One thing I’m wondering, at the end of the movie, were there any hints about the fate of Emily Blunt’s character? Obviously she died, but were there any photographs praising her bravery such as the recruiting poster on the bus?

She lived at the end. The last scene is him walking in on her doing her stretches, unless I’m missing the question.

The blueblood takes you back to “the beginning of the day before you died” , in the first set of loops - it keeps taking him back to the day he woke up on the tarmac “wake up maggot” - he ‘trains’ for a day - then goes to battle.

In the second set (omega) - he again goes back to the day before he died - which was the day he first appeared on the hellicopter to see the general.

That there seems to be a gap in time between “arrest him” and “wake up maggot” is just missing time - “wake up maggot” is the beginning of the day (for him).

Yes, but why is the Omega dead at the beginning of this day (the day Cruise first appeared on the hellicopter to see the general)?
If the day was restarting, the Omega should be alive, right? Unless, once you kill an Omega it dies in all times

you can’t question the time loop - near as I can tell - once dead, its dead - it was able to loop based on the fact that it (the omega) didn’t die, but received info from its ‘generals’ - the really rare aliens in the battlefield that Cruise killed to start his loop - that as far as we know, is not seen again. Otherwise, it would be incredibly easy to create more loopers.

Probably going tomorrow. Is the 3d version worth seeing, or is it tacked on 3d bullshit? Choice is between 2d and Imax 3d - see it in Imax?

I saw it in 2D. Didn’t feel like I missed anything. Imax would be cool.

We saw it in 3D and I’d say it’s worth it. I’ve heard it described as a movie that’s like you’re in a first person shooter game and that enhanced some of the fighting. I also really thought it was a good summertime shit-blowed-up-real-good movie.

We see the blue alien twice more - once, at the ambush at the dam, and again, at the Louvre, when it kills Emily Blunt’s character just before Cruise destroys the Omega.

[spoiler]We don’t know that that is the ‘same’ blue alien - just another one.

We ‘know’ there is only one omega.

I would expect we would see the ‘same’ blue alien on the first battlefield where cruise dies the first time. and I don’t believe we do.[/spoiler]

Dammit sorry, spoilers below!!!

I read the source material for this movie, ‘All You Need Is Kill’ by Hiroshi Sakurazaka, a couple of years ago and found it a quick, fun and light read and actually thought at the time that it would make a good movie before I heard that one was in production. I also thought they’d picked a good new title as well.

Apart from the slight disappointment that they shied away from having a Japanese hero (although I thought Tom Cruise was great in the role as the zero to hero William Cage, but then as unfashionable as it is I’m a fan of his, in the acting arena at least) I thought it was a very good adaptation and a good movie in its own right, having respect for the source material (World War Z, I’m looking at you) while not constraining itself overly closely to it. It had some nice touches along these lines, the name of the main character, his fumbling with suit controls in Japanese for example.

Fast pace, intruiging plot, good action scenes (I’m not a fan of shaky-cam but it did hide the 12A cleanliness of the battle-scenes pretty effectively), characters you could actually root for and a nice balance between a sense of tongue-in-cheek humour while taking itself just seriously enough to maintain suspension of disbelief.

It’s also good to see such a big-name Hollywood star tying himself so closely to the science-fiction movie genre.

My only real criticism were that it did seem to drag between Cage breaking out of the loop and the final assault on the Omega. Unlike most people I also didn’t mind the happy ending, a bittersweet ending would also have been OK but I liked Cruise’s character stepping off the helicopter to the sound of bells of victory ringing all over London and meeting and renewing his relationship with Vitraski, for the first time from her perspective.

But I have a couple of questions:

Cruise’s character tells the General that his instinct to bomb the Omega alien if Cruise revealed its location wouldn’t work, why not? If Cruise convinced him it was under Paris and a nuke was dropped on the site why would that not finish it off?

And what were the events of the film like from the perspective of Emily Blunt’s character, Rita Vrataski, for example when she shoots Cage in the head to reset the loop what happens to her? Does her timeline continue with her having to answer for a dead Cage or does she and her reality snap out of existence? Is it multiple parallel timelines or one timeline?

Time-travel it is were be having made my head ache.

Anyway, good book and good movie.

Her character would die the next day whether she was arrested for killing Cruise or just sent out to the battlefield. London fell immediately after the battle, so everyone in the city died either way.

The blue aliens are described as incredibly rare - something like one in two million. I’m pretty sure it’s meant to be the same one. It only showed up on the battlefield that first time, because it was killed there - the whole point of the “rewind” ability in the first place was to keep the blue aliens alive. Once it was killed on the battlefield the first time, it probably wasn’t sent back there specifically to keep it from dying again.

I saw it, thought it was good, unexpectedly amusing, and also loved the rolling-under-the-truck scene. Good on Tom Cruise for playing a character that starts out sleazy, but redeems himself. I went for the time-travel element, and ended up loving the whole thing.

Ah yes, that makes sense, it also reminds me of a fundemental difference between the book and the movie. In the book the alien/s learn in the same manner as Cruise’s character does from the resets so everytime the battlefield is different. That would make it a lot harder to get off the beach as he’d have to genuinely fight his way out rather than memorising the position and attack of each threat and dealing with it as it arises.

Also I’m not sure if they meant that scene to be the same but in the book when Cage/Keiji deserts before the battle the Mimics invade specifically where he is in order to kill him.

I also thought they could have made it clearer the effect the Mimics were having on the Earth, in the book they were leaching vital minerals and other elements from the land and sea and leaving a wasteland behind them, they kind of showed this with the withering crops but when the movie first showed the beach-head I thought that the entire European continent had been reduced to a barren wasteland which was a rather chilling thought.

But I’m nit-picking, unlike most recent Hollywood movies and book-adaptations in particular I really liked this one.

I’m fine with either interpretation - and can see your point as well - regardless, at the end - the omega clearly doesn’t have the ability to reset from it’s own death - as far as we know —