El labarinto de Fauna (Pan's Labyrinth.) -- mild spoilers

Just got back from “Pan’s Labyrinth.” Woah. I don’t even know what to say. I actually had a Spanish class just last semester on Franco’s Post-war dictatorship, so I came into the film with a pretty clear understanding of the historical context. The best way I can describe this movie is Alice in Wonderland meets Silent Hill… only with a bunch of dark, dark Spanish history thrown in.

It’s one thing to hear in a history class about the horrors of war… and another thing to view it, unfiltered, through the eyes of a child. I almost feel like I’d have to see it again to really get a full grasp on everything that took place (I um… I had to leave the theater a coupe of times… I don’t handle human suffering in movies very well at all… though I did have the advantage that since I more or less understand Spanish I heard what was going on even with my eyes closed.) I also noticed, interestingly enough, that some of the translation to English wasn’t truly reflective of what was being said in Spanish.

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For example, at the very end when she’s holding the baby and the faun asks if she will sacrifice him, she screams, “I won’t!” in the English translation. But the actual Spanish is (best as I could hear) “I sacrifice myself!” I don’t understand why they would drop such a powerful statement in the English translation.

I guess I’m pretty happy they didn’t shrink away from the hard reality of war (more like they bludgeon you in the face with it,) but it’s hard to come out of the theater feeling good about humanity. At the same time, it was visually breathtaking and very imaginative. My husband loved it. He described it as fascinating and terrifying. I really did feel like I had a personal stake in the wellbeing of the characters.

I know it just came out, and since it’s a foreign flick, I don’t know if any of you would be rushing out to see it on the first night. I just wondered what others took from this film. I don’t have too much knowledge about Greek mythology but I felt there were a lot of references to this…

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For example the forbidden grapes she ate–perhaps a reference to the story of Persephone? And the whole Faun thing in general – who was Pan in Greek mythology and what might he symbolize here?

Does anybody here know how it’s been received in Spain? I know until quite recently there’s been a huge push to ignore the reality of Franco’s dictatorship and the Spanish Civil War… and this movie is clearly anti-Franco. Mr. Olives just mentioned that it had a 22-minute standing-O at the Cannes Film Festival. It’s gotten very high ratings and all sorts of awards, apparently.

Ooops, here’s a thread that dropped to the bottom of the 2nd page, but lots of people have seen the movie and liked it. You’re not alone.

I don’t understand Spanish, so your translation of that line was a revelation. If you think of any more, please post.

Thank you! Sorry for the Double-Thread-Topic-Dealy :slight_smile:

I think the giant pomegranate in the plate behind the grapes was certainly a shout-out to old 'Seph, yeah. :wink:

Another one I liked a lot that was very, very subtle was (I think) the first shot of the captain alone in his room after Ofelia found the labyrinth…

He faces the camera straight on, with big hulking shoulders filling the frame while he exhales giant clouds of smoke. He totally reminded me of the Minotaur, the bull-headed man beast that ate youths and maidens each year in the center of Theseus’ labyrinth.

Thanks for the Spanish translation! That sure does put another level on the scene, doesn’t it?

Thank you for the Spanish translation. That makes the ending that much more powerful.

Saw it, loved it. I won’t see it again for some time. I’m still recovering from the emotional tension of the first viewing.

I hear you. I couldn’t sleep last night. It was a traumatic thing to see. Maybe in a few months I’ll be able to watch it on video but I could never see it in the theater again.