Fonz I ask this in complete seriousness, have you considered the possibility that you see what others do not because you’re delusional? You’ve hinted that Katrina was controlled by an earthly inteligence. You’ve mentioned the New World Order. Do you believe in a powerful, evil conspiracy capable of controlling the weather through advanced technology? Does this conspiracy supress the truth of history (man and dinosaurs together, the actual history of the solar system, the truth about ancient astronauts), the facts of physics, etc in order to control society?
How do these beliefs differ from the stereotypical paranoid schizophrenic?
Many of do indeed see the world (natural and human) falling apart around our eyes. We discuss global warming and Middle East unrest and all kinds of things like that in GD all the time. Only, the terms of discussion are affected by the fact that a lot of us (maybe even a majority, who knows?) happen to live in the “reality-based community.”
And this proves what, exactly? The arguments that the website makes relies on theories that are about a hundred years old, and applies them in vastly inappropriate ways to modern data. Had you posted a cite from a reputable, peer-reviewed journal, rather than webpages that all appear to link to each other and each other only, then you might have had a chance of being taken seriously.
I’m afraid your senses are misinformed - I have a bookload of typhoon path diagrams issued by the Hong Kong Observatory to show that they do indeed veer all the time, especially around landfall.
No no no! Don’t you see? Mainstream peer review is the path to mendacity and obfuscation! That’s been his whole point all along!
…Of course, how the examination and validation of one’s methods and conclusions by a panel of usually anonymous reviewers should lead to lies and oversights, and why this is better than a lone authority making unilateral assertions which are supposed to be accepted at face value, is unclear.
True enough — but not very relevant to gravitational forces, which don’t care about charge.
I can’t tell what this is supposed to mean. Stuff falls into Venus, more so than other bodies? What makes it unusually absorbent?
I’ll note that there is, yes, a measurable difference between the average altitudes of Mars’ hemispheres. The surface of the northern hemisphere is a little lower, overall, than that of the southern hemisphere. The difference is quite striking when you look at a color-coded altitude map of the planet.
However, compared to Mars’ radius, the altitude difference is tiny — a small fraction of a percent. And there are no other significant asymmetries tied to this altitude asymmetry, that I’m aware of anyway. If Mars had been half “eaten”, I would expect the surface to have many more lava flows in the north, or some other indication of the trauma. Also, if this “eating event” had happened in recent times — a few millennia ago, isn’t that what’s proposed? — that should have erased all the craters on the bitten hemisphere. But Mars is pretty evenly cratered over both halves.
For that matter, Earth is also asymmetric in the same way. Most of the higher altitude land is in the northern hemisphere, making our planet “half-eaten” too I suppose, chomped on from the south. Or perhaps Earth is just naturally a bit lopsided. It’s not as if there’s some principle that forces planets to be perfect spheres. They’re allowed to be a little irregular for no reason.
Not quite. The asteroid belt is basically a planet that failed to coalesce because of tidal forces from Jupiter. Any pair of those asteroids trying to stick together from their mutual gravity will quickly (in astronomical terms) be separated again.
Pretty much did reach our planet, I’m sure. SOHO is only 1.5 million km from here. Most particles with enough kinetic energy to leave Venus and reach SOHO can also go the extra little distance to reach Earth. Many of those ions reaching Earth will have fallen into its magnetic field, and been trapped there for a time.
But all of this is perfectly safe and nothing to worry about. Our own ionosphere is a plentiful source of, well, ions. They swamp the ones arriving occasionally from Venus.
I assume that last sentence was sarcasm. Which is fine, I’m just clarifying.
There’s some more on the SOHO observations here and here. An abstract of the original paper is here. Note that the event you’re referring to occurred back in 1996. Presumably it happens frequently, whenever Venus passes between the Earth and Sun closely enough to cast its ion “shadow cone” in our direction. It has nothing to do with Venus’s surface features.
In other words, this is the sort of interesting phenomenon that scientific instruments can detect, but isn’t otherwise of any practical importance.
I for one will cheerfully admit that the world might be falling apart. I see BrainGlutton is allowing for the possibility too. You can and will find plenty of people here who take an interest our species’ impending doom.
What you should realize though is this. In this thread you’re making some wild claims about physical phenomena that are either (1) much better understood than you suppose (like solar fusion, and celestial mechanics), or (2) are not so well understood (like lightning), but are still not explainable by the fanciful ideas you’re offering or quoting from elsewhere. A bad explanation is worse than no explanation at all. You should expect argument on such topics.
Actually, on this board, you should expect argument on every topic.
Hurricanes don’t veer anywhere? Why don’t you come down here to Florida and play dodgeball with the hurricanes like the rest of us, and see what your senses tell you then.
Gee, sure seems like my last post really stirred up the crowd. Everyone is much holier than myself, I can see as well.
Are you kidding me?
Look at the topography. The north is relatively smooth, the south looks like it has pizza-face. The north pole of Mars is this 3 km-high dome:
Remember how I’ve been saying that electrical discharges can create craters too, with raised mounds in the middle like this one?
Which are bigger versions of these tiny craters created in a lab that also have tiny bumps in the middle:
Basically the north pole of Mars is the raised bump, and the entire northern hemisphere is the crater. Just look at this picture of electric wind created in a lab on a clay anode, and Tyrrhena region of Mars. OooOOoh, striking similiarity. The Olympus Mons is no better off, with its craters that center themselves on other craters:
and its glass dunes that run perpendicular to each other, because electricity finds the shortest route possible between the point of discharge and its parent branch:
What’s I’m wondering is how lava channels create features like this:
There are scoops and gouges, but also lots of little pits around. This can be attributed to the varying air pressure and strengths of the discharge. The atmosphere of Mars was being sucked up by Venus at the time, so there were lots of lightning strikes when there weren’t any plasma tornadoes burning away the surface.
Prove it.
You know what? They sure don’t. Those poor people, driven mad by what they know. I can tell you there are times when knowing what I do feels like such a heavy burden. It sucks, really, and I wish I could go back to not knowing. But yes, they are controlling the weather.
They did this with the hurricanes to help pull electrons from under our atmosphere (the insulator) and above the Earth where they can’t give us more bad weather. The Sun was having many sunspots last fall and is calling back electrons. This is why they have those tornadoes all around inside the sunspot wall, why sunspots appear to be massive hurricanes on the tornadoes surface, and why scientists think they are created by magnetic fields. Remember how they take the path of least resitance? Well travelling along the face of the Sun in these currents is the path of least resistance to the sunspot:
Once there, the charged particles moving through those currents dump themselves into the sunspot through these massive tornadoes:
Sometimes the difference in the amount of particles on either side of the sunspot will make them want to bridge the gap:
Once there, they head straight down into the core of the Sun:
Basically the particles make a right angle which is what you’ll always find this energy doing. This is why sunspots rotate around the Sun faster than the surrounding surface, because they are like vacuum cleaners absorbing as many electrons as possible.
Through lots of z-pinching over the years, the Sun has made tons of heavy elements on its surface that have then “rained down” into the core. There is a sufficient amount now for the core to affect the surface and now it is trying to absorb electrons that it lacks. When the pull between the core and the surface reach that point where they are able to overcome the insulation of the gas inbetween a raging hurricane sunspots is spawned.
Sunspots aren’t explained very well at all. In fact the entire Sun itself is still one big mystery which we haven’t proven anything about. I think the tornadoes in the sunspots that look like one big hurricane will finally crack that mystery.
Never mind, found them. Thunderbolts.info and Holoscience.com, two sites which appear to be purely about the Electric Universe theory and which link to each other in pretty decent amounts.
You could just link to the pictures on those sites, you know.
