Electric Sun

So we’re metaphorical vultures tearing at your liver?

Anyway, let us know when you come with an actual, y’know, experiment.

What I want to know is, how can we utilize this fantastic “electric energy” thing for our own use? Can we stop using coal and stuff to generate electricity?

I’m hoping we’ll soon be using fusion. Y’know, that stuff that doesn’t exist.

We could have stopped using it long ago, but then that might have led to more disasters. The men who run the Earth knew that we needed to remove the oil from inside the Earth, which acted as an insulator. When our planet was created, the core was as devoid of the ether and as filled with electrons as it could possibly be. Then a coat of oil was slathered on, and then more dirt. The stream of ether came flowing in, and the ether stuck to the surface of the Earth like the pressure of water pushing in on a submarine. The ether wanted to reach the electrons, but could not because of the oil. This also acts as a “cushion” against incoming objects of a different charge that would zap our planet from time to time. It also lowered what we percieve to be gravity, and allowed animals that would be impossibly large nowadays like the Teratorn and the Ultrasaur.

Something like that, anyways. It’s not a perfect set up, though, it leaks and the time comes when a planet must be abandoned for this very reason. This is why flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven. God ushers out our electric souls before it’s all over.

Wow.

Since when is electric charge not constant?

Spare me. You parrot crap you don’t understand, and can’t demonstrate to people asking for a simple equation or experimental demonstration. You profess deep understanding of the natural world power by electromagnetism yet your grasp of 19th century classic EM theory amounts to the muddled ramblings of a fool*.

  • Being a fool is more complicated. It’s a form of social behavior. A fool is one who always talks outside his glass… He wants to talk about what’s in the glass, but somehow or other he misses. "- Umberto Eco

Since the beginning of time. We see stuff in space from time to time we don’t understand that can only have been caused by things like the speed of light changing or the charge on an electron being different, but we file it away under “anomalies” and continue on with the old theories.

No that’s what you do, you just expect other people to understand it for you. I understand the basics, I’ll the researchers figure out the equations. This is where we’ll agree to disagree, because to me YOU are the fool. Our ancient ancestors talk about massive lightning bolts rocking the planet and dragons and all sorts of crazy stuff we don’t currently understand. They knew things that could only have been known if the way the solar system is now was not the way it was during their time. I listed the problems with the solar fusion model, and listed evidence for Mars electric destruction. This would be consistent with ancient legends of warriors associated with Mars who were scarred by a massive lightning bolt or an arrow.

People like you ignore all these things, so to me you are the greatest fools of all. Like that one guy said, “I can’t tell you what the Matrix is, you have to see it for yourself.” You just can’t see it.

Christ you’re bucking for the cretin definiton instead? :rolleyes:

Observations: Check
Model: Nope
Theory: Check
Prediction: Nope
Postdiction: Check

Sounds like psuedoscience to me.

What I love is that TheFonz says that elements are formed using a Z-pinch, when the Z-machine uses the Z-pinch to fuse deuterium, yet solar fusion does not occur.

What I love is that you don’t understand the difference between z-pinching on the Sun and z-pinching on Earth. Oh, I also love that you ignore every bit of history our ancient ancestors handed down to us. THAT’S a formula for success.

You ever notice how it’s always the modern knowledge that’s based on lies and stupidity? If the ancients believed it, it’s automatically gospel truth. Apparently, the ability to make shit up to cover gaps in your knowledge was not invented until sometime around the turn of the 20th century.

This interests me greatly. Tell me more about your worldview. Perhaps something about the origin of DNA? Or of mankind? What about the nature of the human mind; are you a dualist or a monist?

You’re a pitiable person who desperately needs to take a math and physics course so you can actually sound like you know what you’re talking about.

See if you can find Applied Electromagnetic by Shen et al and maybe Principles of Stellar Evolution and Nucleosynthesis.

You do know you’re being played for a fool by whatever web sites you’ve been reading?

I ask of you, TheFonz, what happens when we reverse the polarity of this sun of yours?

Or, we could all join hands and sing together…

“The sun is a mass of incandescent gas,
A gigantic nuclear furnace…”

If you want to sing along, the original songs are now in the public domain. Look here.

This is not how debate works.

If you are truly not a troll (and you wish to continue posting, here), you will point out in explicit detail the differences between z-pinching in separate places. Why do you believe that they have separate effects and what is the physical basis for those effects. (And do not reply with some facetious comment about what I do not know. I have not taken part in this thread and you have no idea what I may or may not know. You only know that I am asking you to follow the standard protocol of debate and provide a legitimate defence of a claim that you have asserted.)

Granted, there’s no tungsten-created plasma generating x-rays to fuse deuterium around the sun. But there is no z-pinching going on in solar fusion anyway.

Just out of curiosity, what do you know about tokamaks? And what’s your stance on the existence of the Ford Fusion and 6-bladed razors? Personally, I think both are an affront to good sense.

I understand everything just fine, if not the details then the macroscopic view of it all. I understood it before I read what I have about ancient history, the crazy paintings with UFO’s, and before I realized our world was doomed. I made it to calculus, I don’t want to take any more mathematics courses because it is too rigid, and ruins the creativity of a person’s soul. I want to be able to think in colors and beautiful pictures, and maintain my mental flexibility. If you are the end result of years of mathematics and physics courses then you can definitely count me out. That is not progress.

Then everything gets colder and life ends. What if the Sun continues on as it is now? Then everything gets hotter and life still ends. It’s all about the balance of our energy fields.

With or without routing it through the deflector dish?

I think anything used to create particles in a lab or reproduce anything going on in the Sun is a waste of time since they are made in the energy fields of our Earth. Remember how the Sun has such a large magnetic field, and our Earth such a puny one? Yeah, the Sun does what it does because of its massive energy fields. Anything made in a lab won’t be sustainable, won’t be useful, will be extremely short-lived. We got ourselves headed straight down the wrong path, but too bad these guys spent their developmental years studying rigid equations and limiting their creativity to things they’d already heard over and over. The parroting got to them.

Creationist all the way. Order out of chaos, buddy. DNA is a double-helix, Birkeland currents are a double-helix, some galaxies are double-helix. DNA and these galaxies are shaped by twisting electric currents. They are what compose our soul. Our ancient ancestors explained that our souls were the energy fields that exist within our bodies, the fire that rests in the water.

This should have been proven the moment we discovered electric currents travelling our nerves, creating storms of thought in our brain. But once again we “proved” that we are actually smarter than our ancestors, and that they were stupid idiots with plenty of time on their hands to think up all these things. Still, I wonder what these ancient priests were doing in those pyr-mids (fire in the middle in Greek). Something very holy, I’m sure.

Whoever thinks everything our ancestors handed down to us is BS is a great fool.