Electric Sun

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
It’s OK, I gotcha buddy. It finishes like this:

if man is five then the devil is six and God is seven, and Seven Samurai was directed by Kurosawa, who also directed Yojimbo featuring a nameless wandering samurai, therefore you are an Asian bodyguard.
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Okay, that was pretty good.

[Quote=Miller]
Okay, that was pretty good.
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Hey, it was even completely accurate until the point where I was Scandinavian and as frail as someone with osteogenesis imperfecta. Which has pretty much been my entire life.

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
It’s called the charge on an electron, that thing that we think is constant but actually isn’t. It just spread itself out evenly amongst its surroundings, the entire planet.

But oh well, I concede guys. You’re right, I’m wrong. The way I figure it, Prometheus was punished not for revealing to Man the secret of combustion, but for revealing the secret of the green electric fire. I’m not trying to go out like that, but you’ll realize the true nature of all things when the world goes to hell right here real soon. You’ll look back on all the things I’ve said and you’ll wonder why everything is changing so quickly all the way up until the day our soul returns to the energy fields of our planet from whence it came.

I could argue this all the way up until that one day when you realize I’m right, simply because you can’t bury your head in the sand and ignore it anymore… but what would be the point?

Fonzy out. :slight_smile:
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Just remember that Galileo probably had days like this. In fact, I think it would be a good idea if you mentioned that to your audience, once in a while.

So, if I connect a storage battery to dying people I can capture human souls?

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
When our planet was created, the core was as devoid of the ether and as filled with electrons as it could possibly be. Then a coat of oil was slathered on, and then more dirt. The stream of ether came flowing in, and the ether stuck to the surface of the Earth like the pressure of water pushing in on a submarine. The ether wanted to reach the electrons, but could not because of the oil. This also acts as a “cushion” against incoming objects of a different charge that would zap our planet from time to time. It also lowered what we percieve to be gravity, and allowed animals that would be impossibly large nowadays like the Teratorn and the Ultrasaur.
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At last, the mystery of who broke into the Magrathean Plan Room has finally been solved.

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
We could have stopped using it long ago, but then that might have led to more disasters. The men who run the Earth knew that we needed to remove the oil from inside the Earth, which acted as an insulator. When our planet was created, the core was as devoid of the ether and as filled with electrons as it could possibly be. Then a coat of oil was slathered on, and then more dirt. The stream of ether came flowing in, and the ether stuck to the surface of the Earth like the pressure of water pushing in on a submarine. The ether wanted to reach the electrons, but could not because of the oil. This also acts as a “cushion” against incoming objects of a different charge that would zap our planet from time to time. It also lowered what we percieve to be gravity, and allowed animals that would be impossibly large nowadays like the Teratorn and the Ultrasaur.

Something like that, anyways. It’s not a perfect set up, though, it leaks and the time comes when a planet must be abandoned for this very reason. This is why flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven. God ushers out our electric souls before it’s all over.
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This is all very reminiscent of the work of a member going by the name of Novagaea, over here

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
I understand everything just fine, if not the details then the macroscopic view of it all. I understood it before I read what I have about ancient history, the crazy paintings with UFO’s, and before I realized our world was doomed. I made it to calculus, I don’t want to take any more mathematics courses because it is too rigid, and ruins the creativity of a person’s soul. I want to be able to think in colors and beautiful pictures, and maintain my mental flexibility. If you are the end result of years of mathematics and physics courses then you can definitely count me out. That is not progress.
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I’m the end result of an inquisitive mind. Go and rock yourself to sleep in the corner and gibber about ether and souls and energy fields. Framing your refusal to learn in terms of maintaining some sort of virginal creative state is a cop-out.

It explains lightning and the accelerating solar wind and the rotation of the galaxies better than the mainstream model. What’s so clear about, “Gravity can’t explain it until we take our dark matter and put it anywhere in our computer models that we want. See? Now the galaxies in our models don’t fly apart anymore!”

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
It explains lightning and the accelerating solar wind and the rotation of the galaxies better than the mainstream model.
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I guess I missed that part. How exactly does it explain the accelerating solar wind? How does an electric field accelerate both positively and negatively charged particles?

And how exactly does it explain galactic rotation? If electric force is holding the galaxy together, causing it to rotate like a rigid body, what charge distribution is necessary for that?

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
It explains lightning and the accelerating solar wind and the rotation of the galaxies better than the mainstream model. What’s so clear about, “Gravity can’t explain it until we take our dark matter and put it anywhere in our computer models that we want. See? Now the galaxies in our models don’t fly apart anymore!”
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General Relativity explains large scale cosmology wonderfully. Its mathematical model makes predictions (energy shedding in binary neutron star systems) that can be verified through observation. When observations diverge from the model there are a few explanations such as

  1. The model is incomplete
  2. The model is complete but there is an undetected variable (say a non luminous mass)

Maybe even you, hiding under the bed sheets, have heard about how Neptune was detected?

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
It explains lightning and the accelerating solar wind and the rotation of the galaxies better than the mainstream model. What’s so clear about, “Gravity can’t explain it until we take our dark matter and put it anywhere in our computer models that we want. See? Now the galaxies in our models don’t fly apart anymore!”
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Wait, wait, wait, hang on. From what I can gather, your theory relies heavily on dark energy and/or dark matter. So how exactly can you go sneering at the mainstream scientists when they supposedly use it as well?

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
It explains lightning and the accelerating solar wind and the rotation of the galaxies better than the mainstream model. What’s so clear about, “Gravity can’t explain it until we take our dark matter and put it anywhere in our computer models that we want. See? Now the galaxies in our models don’t fly apart anymore!”
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OK. Two points:

First, provide evidence that current physicists “put” “dark matter” “anywhere in [their] computer models” to prevent galaxies from flying apart. You have made the claim, support it.

Second, how is moving “dark matter” around any different than claiming that the sun is powered by an electrical current that we cannot detect?

(bolding mine)

You have simply replaced one source of energy that you fail to understand with a new source of energy that you claim you cannot even find.

[QUOTE=DocCathode]
So, if I connect a storage battery to dying people I can capture human souls?
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Sure. Just don’t cross the streams.

[QUOTE=TheFonz]
It’s OK, I gotcha buddy. It finishes like this:

if man is five then the devil is six and God is seven, and Seven Samurai was directed by Kurosawa, who also directed Yojimbo featuring a nameless wandering samurai, therefore you are an Asian bodyguard.
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The sun, the sun, the sun is electric. The sun, the sun, the sun is electric. The sun, the sun, the sun is electric. We don’t need no proof let the insults fly. Fly insults fly fly.

Wow… I come back to a thread after not reading it for a day, and the topic has shifted from electricity in the sun to whether or not souls exist? How did that happen?

[QUOTE=wm–]
How did that happen?
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Just following the logic of the OP.

[QUOTE=wm–]
Wow… I come back to a thread after not reading it for a day, and the topic has shifted from electricity in the sun to whether or not souls exist? How did that happen?
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It turns out nonsense, like pudding, is homogenous.

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
It turns out nonsense, like pudding, is homogenous.
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The nonsense flows invisibly and undetectably through the pudding, stirring it.

[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]
It turns out nonsense, like pudding, is homogenous.
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I figured that one out years ago thanks to Bill Cosby.

Jam Roly Poly is not homogenous; it’s suffused by a swirly conglomeration of fruit confection that, even though it cannot be detected or described, is tasty and delicious. Spotted dick, on the other hand, contains powerful dark currants.