UVM MInstrel Shows:
Here in Peru, there are several “Negritos” dances that come from colonial times. The interesting angle is that the dancers are actually native Peruvians or mestizos. Instead of blackface they wear masks and dresses imitating/paroding both the whites and blacks.
Video - Negritos de Huanuco
So you want to write a love poem to arguably The Most Racist Form of Entertainment Ever Created ™ and lament it’s passing into history.
Yes it is (somewhat) uniquely American…in all the wrong ways.
How the fuck am I Not supposed to think you’re racist?!?
I think the idea is to try to draw you in to getting a warning, so don’t bite.
Fuck Minstrel Shows. Black entertainers participating in them do not absolve that racist form of entertainment in any way - it was the one of the very few “mainstream” forms of stage entertainment they were allowed to participate in, and they gotta eat. Being the only uniquely American form of live stage entertainment is not a worthy distinction, it’s just another highlight of how messed up America’s history can be.
I think the passing of the minstrel shows is a plus for society, specifically because of the irreducible racism.
No, we don’t. All those songs you listed are used nowadays to conjure up old timey feelings or make fun of old timers singing them. When was the last frigging time you sang Swanee River?
His family lost a plantation house in Kentucky, and apparently his mother never got past it. That’s why “My Old Kentucky Home” has the chorus, “Weep no more my lady, oh weep no more today.”
I like reading it as, “Goddamn Ma, shuddup about the freakin’ house. It’s GONE!! Deal with it for Chrissakes!”
Standard SDMB nitpick: Did you mean “Eulogy for the minstrel show”?
Elegy seems fine to me…
ETA: Not that I think the minstrel show warrants such a tribute.
Driving over I10 in Florida.
My dad had an LP back in the early 60s. I think he got it as a gift, or maybe it was one of the free records that came with our spiffy new hi fi. It was basically a minstrel show. I was embarrassed by it even as a young kid. There was one song I liked about a preacher going hunting on a Sunday and getting chased by bear. The tagline was “Oh, lord, if you can’t help me, for goodness sakes, don’t you help that bear.” It wasn’t sung in any kind of fakey dialect, so it didn’t seem so bad. It was just a funny song. And it didn’t have any racial inferences that I remember. The rest of the album? Cringey.
Says who?
Oh, I agree. And yet, it is a distinctive part of our cultural heritage. Perhaps it should not be so thoroughly forgotten as it seems to be – as mentioned above, I once saw a biopic of Stephen Foster that completely ignored minstrelsy; that’s no way to tell American cultural history.
Says the 19th-Century marketplace. The minstrel-show songs still known were written for that popular genre, and would not have been written had something else been more popular.
Or in the cartoon ash face trope – when it happens (which it doesn’t, any more, AFAIK), we almost always hear the first few notes of “Swanee River.” Which, as noted above, was the state song of Florida for a long time.
Does country music not qualify in the OP? What about Western shows with the like of Annie Oakley?
I think there’s a few Warner Bro cartoons not on the banned list that have Swanee River
I’m confused. Are you agreeing with me that you’re wrong?
Love and Theft by Eric Lott is a good book about minstrelsy.
It was a main tributary to all forms of modern popular music and entertainment, so it’s hard to cut it loose and damn it’s name. Some of the best scenarists, comedians and singers of their time did it.
It has a complicated history that lends itself to deeper thoughts but in threads it can come to grief.