There’s your problem.
As for whether ACA will lead to single payer, it won’t. Gigo’s contention that a few inefficient insurers will cause the government to step in is a dream. First, if there are inefficient insurers, they’ll simply lose out to the more efficient insurers. Second, in order for the government to step in, Democrats would need unified control of the government again. Actually, they’d need more than that, since the public option couldn’t have passed the Senate even with 60 Democratic Senators.
There’s only one path to single payer: ACA gets repealed or fails utterly, and the single payer advocates win the national debate over what to do next. If ACA succeeds, that’s the law for the next 100 years.
Are you SURE you’ve never seen it? Think hard. Maybe even take a look around the room your sitting in. Take your time…
(GASP!) Draw up those impeachment papers!
Supporters have sometimes been a little slow, but eventually a President’s approval rating always catches up with reality. I have little faith that Obama’s will. I think he’ll hang around the low 40s until he leaves office, simply because there are about 40% who will just never believe he’s a failure. All failures can be explained away as someone else’s fault.
And all successes handwaved away as not important.
Congress passes laws, and most of his accomplishments are things he could have done just by remaining in the Senate and letting Hillary Clinton be President. And Clinton wouldn’t have missed most of the ACA deadlines.
Now the things you listed that were actual executive accomplishments, okay.
Not so much lately.
Means nothing. Obama had ruled it out too. If she’s ruling it out after the midterms, then she’s ruled it out.
Unless of course she’s the honest type and not a typical politician.
What has she done on the banking committee in the last 15 months?
Really, nothing.
Her CFPB was passed in 2010 and is her sole contribution to financial reform. A good one, but alone it is.
And Glass-Steagall II is going nowhere because it is meaningless in a Dodd-Frank era.
When was this?
Honest or dishonest, she’s no typical politician in this Year of Grace!
Give it time, she’s still a frosh.
From 2004 until early 2007. He said absolutely not, no way.
I spent a couple of minutes googling and couldn’t find any mention of that at all. Could it be that that’s a couple more minutes than you spent?
So it’s your turn: What makes you think he said that, adaher?
Because he actually did, and there’s more to knowledge than what you can find googling. Perhaps you could pick up a book, like Game Change, which devoted a whole chapter to his pledge that he wasn’t running and his change of heart.
I’m sure it could be found on the internet, but I’m not going to work for someone with a short memory and who thinks that if it can’t be found on the internet, it didn’t happen.
Ah, hell with it, here’s a list of quotes. Yeah, it’s a blog, but you probably can’t find a more comprehensive list anywhere else:
Previous quotes from Obama on running for president:
"Pshaw, You know, hooey." - Jul 27, 2004
"That's way premature. I'm a lowly state senator trying to get to the U.S. Senate." - Sept 29, 2004
"I am not running for president. I am not running for president in four years. I am not running for president in 2008." - Nov. 3, 2004 "I will serve out my six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed. I will not. [run for president in 2008] - Nov., 2004 on "Meet the Press"
"Ridiculous" - Dec. 6, 2004
"I will not be running for president in '08" - Jan.3, 2005
"People have asked me this, and I'm sincere when I say it's not on my radar screen." - Jan. 19, 2005
"It's not something that I'm focused on right now, but it's not something that I would foreclose in the future." - Dec., 2005
"My attitude about something like the presidency is that you don't want to just be president. You want to change the country. You want to make a unique contribution. You want to be a great president." - Aug, 2006
"The day after my election to the United States Senate, somebody asked me, am I running in 2008. I said at that time: 'No.' And nothing so far has changed my mind." - Aug., 26, 2006
"But it's fair to say you're thinking about running for president in 2008?" "It's fair, yes." "I would say that I am still at the point where I have not made a decision to, to pursue higher office, but it is true that I have thought about it over the last several months."- Oct., 2006 on Meet the Press.
"When the election is over and my book tour is done, I will think about how I can be most useful to the country and how I can reconcile that with being a good dad and a good husband. I haven't completely decided or unraveled that puzzle yet." - Oct., 2006
"I don't want to be coy about this. Given the responses that I've been getting over the last several months, I have thought about the possibility." - Oct. 26, 2006
"I recognize there is a certain presumptuousness - a certain audacity - to this announcement," the freshman U.S. senator said. "I know I haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington. But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change." - Feb. 11, 2007
"My wife and I were talking the other day, and she said we're not doing this again." [In reference to if he doesn't win the 2008 election.] - Dec. 28, 2007
OBAMA.450 In a Nov. 4, 2004 Chicago Sun-Times article, Obama was quoted as saying:
"I was elected yesterday," Obama said. "I have never set foot in the U.S. Senate. I've never worked in Washington. And the notion that somehow I'm immediately going to start running for higher office just doesn't make sense.
"So look, I can unequivocally say I will not be running for national office in four years, and my entire focus is making sure that I'm the best possible senator on behalf of the people of Illinois."
"My understanding is that I will be ranked 99th in seniority. ... I'm going to be spending the first several months of my career in the U.S. Senate looking for the washroom and trying to figure out how the phones work."
... and his own plans to establish "a top-flight constituent service office" and travel the state to thank and listen to Democrats and Republicans alike to devise "concrete ways" to improve jobs, education and health care in Illinois.
"And that's my complete and total focus during this new adventure that I'm walking into," he said.
"It's important for me to show the voters of Illinois the degree to which I am concerned with the people of Illinois, because I think that the hype that's surrounded my campaign during this last phase needs to be corrected," he said. "People need to recognize that the job I've applied for and that they have hired me for is to be the best U.S. senator possible for the state of Illinois."
"I am not running for president in 2008," Obama said. "I mean, come on guys. The only reason I'm being definitive is because until I'm definitive you will keep asking me this question, but it's a silly question."
“I am not running for president. I am not running for president in four years. I am not running for president in 2008.” - Barack Obama, Nov. 3, 2004, (Chicago Tribune, February 15, 2006)
Very good effort there, never mind that only a few of those quotes say what you claim they say. I’m almost proud of you.
Now, can you name a favorite recent Republican candidate who never said anything like that? 'Cause, you know, if he did, you’d have to paste that all over this board while denouncing him as a liar and using that as an excuse to oppose anything he ever tried, right?
I actually said that I don’t hold it against him, since that’s normal politician behavior. I was simply questioning whether Warren was a typical politician or an honest person. As much as I disagree with her ideology, what I’ve seen of her so far tells me she’s not a typical politician. But we’ll see once she’s been in DC a little longer. Obama, on the other hand, is as politician-y as it gets and always has been. What makes him special is that even some really smart people believed for a while that he really was different. That should have been dispelled the second he went back on his word.
Thanks for the quotes. I was sincere when I asked the question because I knew he declared fairly early, at the beginning of 2007. I wish that some sources for those quotes were given, because I’d like to see the context they were made in, but I don’t doubt that most of them were accurate.
Whether they’re comparable to Warren’s declaration is a different story. The chances of that are so close to nil that microcalipers wouldn’t give a reading. At the beginning of 2007 Obama was a 45-year-old rising star whose announcement was unexpected. At the beginning of 2015 Warren will be a 65-year-old known quantity that people have been pushing for the position for years. She’s not running.