I’ve never even heard this UL. What am I supposed to feel when I hear it? Am I supposed to be mad at Canada because bad people lived there? And since it’s been debunked (didn’t they live in Florida or something? I can’t remember), and they lived here what am I supposed to feel? Someone please tell me how to feel!
Outraged! You’re supposed to feel outraged.
Patriotic, too. Don’t forget patriotic.
But the fingers stick out like a rooster’s comb. What’s not to love?
And he blew it up with his nose. That’s the bit I hadn’t expected.
A quick reminder for our Northern friends who continue to massage their feelings of moral superiority vs. those warmongering gunlovers from south of the 49th, blithely dismissing any inconvenient facts to the contrary:
Plenty more supporting info, just a Google away, too, but that’s a start - from your own side of the border, too.
About time you hosers accepted a bit more responsibility for your role in the world, and quit pretending everyone simply loves you for your own smug, self-righteous selves.
Any of you from the rest of Canada want to tell us aboot the Millenium Plot, for that matter? We caught that guy crossing from across your border just in time.
Now fuck off, eh?
Jesus! I could care less if we aid and abet terrorists who kill puppies, but if another person implies that I, as a Canadian, say, “Aboot” or, “Eh”, I am going hunt them down like the, well, like the dogs they are! fffFFFFUUCKK!
Can’t say I’ve ever felt outraged, but I’m sure as hell not gonna sing ‘God Bless America’ while the good Doc has his finger up my bum. :eek:
All irrelevant.
Here is your exact quote:
None of your cites refer to this claim. They can’t, of course, since none of the 9/11 terrorists were “based” in Montreal.
Either you’re a liar, or you’re just too dumb to understand your own cites. Do you have the courage to admit you were just ignorant? Or are you a coward, too?
The issue in question is your unsupported assertions, which continue to be unsupported. Cite or retract, eh?
Had any of the 9/11 hijackers ever been to Montreal?
Already done. See above. :rolleyes:
That’s what passes for a refutation to you? 
I would try to find simpler words than “Fuck off” if it would help break through the wankfest of self-excuse you’re all enjoying so much, but frankly I doubt it’s possible. I don’t see any evidence you even understood “Eh?”.
Now grow the fuck up and *fix * your problems instead of huffily insisting you don’t have them. That’s what responsible citzens do.
If one of our conservative brethren on this board attempted to use such a source as this, you’d be laughing your ass off.
I especially like the way the co-author quotes himself as an authority.
Fair enough question. Judge for yourself.
Why do you think Ressam made his base in Canada, while we’re on the subject? You might read this PBS transcript first, though. Or this, from the CBC, and before 9/11. Or this. And I haven’t even finished Page 1 of Google hits.
You actually had simple words the first time. You said: “Considering that the 9/11 perps themselves were safely based in Montreal, why would they want to attack it?”
Yet you have neither backed it up, nor retracted it. You have said a lot of other stuff about how Canada has terrorists in it - no doubt some truth there; all free and open democracies have the problem of bad guys getting in, even the US and Canada. That would be an interesting discussion in GD - How do we keep out the bad guys while remaining an open society?. Hell, you might even like to read it.
But that’s not the point you brought up.
Simply give a citation that supports the statement “Considering that the 9/11 perps themselves were safely based in Montreal”, or own up and admit that you were wrong. All this other stuff is in fact irrelevant.
Perhaps I was unclear.
Had any of the 9/11 hijackers ever been to Montreal?
And if further clarification is needed, by “9/11 hijackers”, I refer to the 19 individuals (plus Zacarias Moussaoui, if you wish) who hijacked and crashed planes that day. I’m not denying Montreal has been a harbour for undesirable types, but your very blunt “the 9/11 perps themselves were safely based in Montreal” surely needs heavy qualification and clarification. What exactly do you mean by “perps”? What exactly do you mean by “based”?
None of your cites refer to any of the 9/11 hijackers being based on Montreal. Your cites refer to OTHER terrorists and alleged terrorists being in Canada (which is hardly surprising, given that there are terrorists everywhere.) But that’s not what your claim was. Ahmed Ressam or Abderraouf Jdey are not relevant. They’re nasty peices of work to be sure, but they were not among the 9/11 terrorists.
You can just keep lying if you want. The fact remains your claim was false. You said the 9/11 terrorists were based in Montreal. Either back it up with a cite that specifically shows that the 9/11 terrorists were based in Montreal, retract it, or you’re a liar. Those are your only three choices. Pick one.
The old Bricker trick of trying to narrow the topic enough to produce the answer you want, hmm? I suspected as much. Just so you know: That shit doesn’t work here. The harder you try, the sadder you look.
You can go fuck off too now.
We aren’t on that subject. We are on the subject of 9/11 terrorists being based in Montreal, and how you will talk about anything other than the fact that you were incorrect.
On the subject of Ressam, I note Wikipedia says:
"On December 14, 1999, Ressam boarded the M/V Coho at Vancouver Island and crossed the border at the Port Angeles, Washington ferry landing. Canadian agents had been watching him for more than two years in Montreal. When he disappeared, Mounties traced him to a motel room in British Columbia where they discovered materials that could be used in making bombs. The Mounties then tipped off US Customs officials of a potential bomb threat to them. (This runs counter to the American myth that his interception was “mostly luck”.) At the US-Canadian border, upon noticing that he appeared nervous, US Customs officers inspected him more closely and asked for further identification. Ressam panicked and attempted to flee. Customs officials then found nitroglycerin and four timing devices concealed in a spare tire well of his rented car. He was arrested by customs, and investigated by the FBI. He had shared a room in Canada with Abdelmajid Dahoumane, a suspected terrorist. A suitcase in the room which they lived in tested positive for chemicals used for making bombs. Ressam began cooperating with investigators in 2001, and revealed that al-Qaida sleeper cells existed within the United States. This information was included in the famous Presidential Daily Briefing delivered to President Bush on August 6, 2001, entitled “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US”. "
Take home message would appear to be: Terrorist was based in Canada, watched by Canadians, who tipped off US. (Thanks, Canada! Appreciate your help!) President told, drops ball. Bad guy in prison on 9/11.
Unless Ressam had a time machine, he’s not relevant to the increasingly famous assertion: “Considering that the 9/11 perps themselves were safely based in Montreal, why would they want to attack it?”
See above.
The only person here that applies to is you. You made a very simple statement:
Very simple, very precise, very easy to parse, very easy to understand. That sentence is the topic. You’re the one tap-dancing and attempting to evade it.
Y’know, it is actually possible to say, “I was wrong,” without spontaneously combusting. At least, I’ve done it.