Emilia Clarke, nudity, GOT, contracts, etc.

You clipped the context where I specify my reason for firing : Contract Renegotiation. As several people had pointed out (later including me), she can stop doing nudity without renegotiating her contract, since there’s a body double out-clause. So guess what? I wouldn’t fire her for not showing her tits.

But hey, you keep arguing at the imagined version of what I said.

You asked me to find a quote where you said what you said. You said it. You didn’t say she had a body-double out-clause originally. You just said you would fire her if she wouldn’t do nudity. Insisting you’re not changing the goalposts when you clearly are isn’t going to work.

I’m not arguing anything, just quoting what you actually said.

You haven’t seen his wife’s elbows.

With that attitude, you wouldn’t last long as a T.V. producer.

Ned being beheaded had nothing to do with the conventions of TV, it had to do with that’s what happened in the book. Of course you could argue that it went against the conventions of fantasy stories to have the obvious good guy killed, and you’d be right in that. It certainly was a shock to read that.

(I hope no one has a conniption that the book got mentioned.)

So you would deliberately sabotage your own business out of spite. If your purpose in this thread was to demonstrate that you should never be put in charge of anything, then you have succeeded.

Was there anything else that you wished to accomplish here?

Oy. I got one more post in me to try and explain this :

I noted in the post you partially quoted that I thought there were three options : Cave, Terminate, and Enforce. As it turns out, I was missing one, but that doesn’t change the fact that I didn’t say ‘Tits or GTFO’. I eliminated Cave, as it is incompatible with my psychology. That left Terminate and Enforce. So I brought in the specific example at hand, and determined that Enforcement would be an abomination, so I said “So my one good option is to wish her well, fire her, and re-cast.”

Which is not “* would fire her, specifically, if she wouldn’t show her tits.” As it turns out, I had one more good option than I thought, in point of fact. Body doubles.

At best, your version is a gross simplification of an out of context piece of a more complex argument. Less charitably, it’s a complete misinterpretation. Whatever the case, I didn’t say what you claimed I said. Perhaps you interpreted it that way. Perhaps you’re trying to score rhetorical points. Dunno.

Now that it has been explained, anything further along these lines I will have to assume is a deliberate misattribution, which is a violation of board rules, if I am not mistaken.

Whatever. You could have just said you were changing your position. It would have been much simpler if you had admitted you made a mistake in the first place.

Everyone is overlooking the obvious. Let me paint you a picture (all dates from Wikipedia)…

September 2012
Emilia Clarke and Seth MacFarlane begin dating

February 2013
Seth MacFarlane performs “We Saw Your Boobs” to much controversy at the Oscars

March 2013
Emilia Clarke and Seth MacFarlane break up

April 2013 - June 2013
Emilia Clarke renegotiates her GoT contract and adds rumored “No Nudity” clause

July 2013
GoT Season 4 begins filming

This doesn’t really clear anything up for me.

So is this thread about a contract renegotiation that took place nearly three years ago? I don’t watch the show, but I had the impression people were discussing something that had happened recently.

I haven’t watched any of this season yet, but my understanding is that some fans were griping that there were scenes in this season where Clarke’ character should have legitimately been nude/partially nude for plot reasons. And that therefore the careful/obvious avoidance of any nudity in those scenes combined with the rumors of her “no-nudity” clause took them out out of the moment while watching.

Then apparently she DID finally do a nude scene and it all became hazy as pet theories/speculations/rumors suddenly needed a re-working ;).

The GoT cast in general renegotiated their contracts, and got hefty pay raises, around October 2014. Emilia Clarke stopped doing nudity (temporarily) after season 3. I haven’t seen any actual confirmation that she renegotiated her contract separately before season 4 started filming around July 2013. As far as I can tell, everything concerning the terms of her original contract regarding nudity, and whether she actually renegotiated anything concerning it in 2013, is pure speculation. There’s been a lot of assumptions made here on the basis of almost no facts.

If anyone actually has a cite that Clarke renegotiated her contract on the basis of nudity in 2013 I’d appreciate a link. Googling didn’t produce anything but rumors.