EMV compliance bill: Scam Scam Scam

I just got this in the snail mail, a very official looking bill from

EMV compliance
PO Box 340380
Dept. 95197
Columbus, OH 43234-0380

It is addressed to me in my professional capacity, at my place of work. It’s using a variant of my address used by a lot of the throwaway med journals I get. It informs me I owe them $139.50 for my Annual EMV Terminal Download, EMV Smart Card Compatible, with a $25,000 customer liability included. It provides account numbers and reference numbers. It also has harsh language, printed in red, about what happens with late fees if you don’t pay by the due date.

It provides no phone numbers to call, and provides a website at www.evmcompliance.com to visit. Visiting this website reveals a minimally informative webpage with equally minimal links, all of which discuss the legitimate role of EMV and credit card fraud in suitably vague terms.

Anybody else seeing this scam? Some cursory googling did not reveal scam info for me, but there’s no way in hell I ever ordered this service or arranged for any smart card use by my patients!

The address is a mail drop rented out by these guys.

And if you check out the address you see notes like this and this.

There are a few reports of it on Ripoff Report.

That PO Box is a virtual box used by several one-person shops (or scammers).

I think you can safely ignore this.

ETA: beaten on all fronts by kunilou.

Are you sure? I have it on good authority that you routinely do business with known criminals.
:wink:

I had to google what EMV even was. Is that what you guys are routinely calling it down there?

For us, it’s always just been Chip and PIN, or just Chip.

The fines are/can be awfully steep if you go awry of this, however, I’m guessing that they’re just playing up on fear and/or getting people to think it’s an official letter that they have to abide by. No different than the ones from “Personnel Concepts” that tell you if you don’t give them an ungodly amount of money, right now, you’ll owe thousands in fines for not having the correct labor law posters. It’s just a private company using scare tactics to get money from people.

I got a different one a few years back. I got a letter from the state to renew my sellers permit (or one of my licenses). I was this close to paying it when I noticed the “pay to” name wasn’t in my computer. Some digging showed that A)I already renewed it a few weeks ago B)the letter wasn’t from the state, just a company that happened to use the word “State” or “Wisconsin” in their name and C)it wasn’t even for a license, they were going to charge me to get a copy of my license printed or framed or mounted or something, but they worded in such a way that it looked very official and required and not at all like I was about to buy a picture frame. That one almost got me. I did report that to the state.

I wish I could remember more of the details of it. I’ll have to dig around and see if I ever mentioned it here.

IME it’s really just called EMV when it’s a merchant talking to their processor. Other people call it ‘You have to use the chip thing’.

PS, check out the fines for not upgrading your terminal to accept cards that begin with a 2. $2500/day for the first 30 days. $10000/day for the next 60 days then $20,000 each occurrence.
I called my processor to make sure I got the upgrade (which I did) and told them I was annoyed that with fines that high I should have been provided with a way to check this for myself. Either a software version number or a test credit card number to use.

As usual a critical typo is another dead giveaway that this is a total scam.

Their website talks about EMV Chip technology but their website address is www (dot) EVMcompliance (dot) com .

And gee Doc, you act like your patients don’t whip out their credit cards to pay their bills. What kind of practice are you running!? :wink:

Since the scammers are based in Columbus, OH and their mail drop is near Ohio State University, we must consider the possibility that this is a sleazy attempt to raise money to pay O.S.U. football players under the table.

Some fans will stop at nothing to give the Buckeyes an unfair advantage.

When a website is involved, a good thing to do is a WHOIS lookup. Here’s the info on the site in the OP: link.

Note that it started up on 2017-07-04. So it hasn’t been around long enough for an annual anything.

Such a recently started web site raises a lot of red flags.

I think all his patients are covered by the state insurance policy.

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My patients are the only ones whose health care is mandated in the US Constitution to be provided by the government! :eek: :smiley:

[sub]Because that’s how the Supremes have interpreted the Constitution. But it’s amazing how many state legislators have asked me why we bother providing any healthcare at all for convicted felons. They tend to be surprised by that answer. [/sub]

Thanks for confirming my 99.9% certainty this bill was bo oh oh oh GUS!

You might want to send a note to the Earth Class Mail company that rents out the box. If they are a legitimate organization, they’d probably be grateful knowing their address is being used for a scam.

Sounds like there’s a good chance that the enterprising entrepreneurs behind “EMV Compliance” may end up with free federal health care themselves – they may even become Qadgop’s patients! :smiley:

Aside from the typo in the domain name, the website domain is pretty much what you’d expect from a cheap fly-by-night organization: The domain resolves to an IP address owned by Cloudflare, a company which rents hosting to anyone who pays, and the WHOIS information on the domain name is just GoDaddy, a company which sells domain names and name resolution.

It’s like you got a letter from Generic Company at Generic Business Location, with absolutely no further identification. Much like how the mailing address is a drop box, in fact.

The only good part of this is at least they had to pay for the letter.

46 cents! (IIRC)

A little off topic, but I often get official-looking mail informing me that if I want to obtain a copy of my Statement of Information (a CA business filing), I MUST send $179.99 (or whatever) to X Company IMMEDIATELY. Of course, copies are obtainable at a much lower cost from the state, and you don’t HAVE to have a recent one around, though sometimes it becomes necessary. (It may be that other businesses have more frequent need of one, and they are better scam targets than me.)