Israel, I think, would be ok with Assad as he was - after all, Syria border was Israel’s quietest since Syria got its butt kicked in the Yom Kippur war. But that’s in the past and Syria is not going back to what it was.
So the question is who wins - Hezbollah & Iran, or Daesh & Al Queda. Given that choice, the best outcome would be - let them fight it out for as long as possible. Decades would be nice.
What you all fail to realize is this country bombing that will never help matters. As for Israel, it will never know peace until a Palestinian state is created. Let’s stop day dreaming, so the FSA being bombed won’t help the larger picture.
Same with the West, it will always been involved in the region and mired in proverbial crap. I liken us to a saber tooth tiger trapped in a tar pit. The tar pit being the Middle East.
Meanwhile the people of the region will continue to come to our countries, not that it bothers me so much at all. Let millions of Muslims come to Europe, I won’t lose a wink of sleep. I do enjoy seeing far right governments try in vain to keep them out, in VAIN.
Uuuh, yes. Your irony soaked indignation aside, Quicksilver’s point about insulting Armenia is meaningless in this debate.
Ah yes, let the people of the region get killed huh? Makes you sleep better at night.
Irony how? I was just pointing out the truth, there is no need to insult Armenia. Heck I am all for recognizing the Genocide and believe we have been cowards not to. But truth is truth.
That was the point I already made in my original post:smack:
“I know, right?” is a dead giveaway bro.
As I said, it’s a trivial point. A truism.
Look, the European are being very generous by letting those folks in. Keep poking them (the Europeans) and at some point things are going to change. Europe doesn’t owe Syria or Syrians shit, to be perfectly blunt.
Assad and his cronies aren’t Shia, they’re Alawites.
Armenia actually has better relations with Turkey than the Armenian diaspora does.
Beyond that, with the atrocities they’ve been engaging in in NK with the Azerbaijanis, I don’t think they want too much talk about genocide.
That’s certainly what colonialists like to claim regarding their colonial possessions, but for some reason that feeling isn’t so popular among the colonized.
I forget the level of pedantry we reach on these boards. My bad. :smack:
I know Armenians aren’t part of the Syrian problem. My point was that you can’t just say “We’re helping the Kurds” and not make enemies of several other regional entities whose priorities don’t align with your noble goals.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m all for helping. It’s just that it’s repeatedly proven to be a much more difficult thing to do successfully in the middle east. And while I’m not encouraged that the odds of success will improve with Russia’s involvement, it does present an opportunity for both Russia and US to repair diplomatic relations. That’s my silver lining in this no-win situation.
I love the idea of the US critiquing the accuracy of Putin’s air attacks. If Putin doesn’t mention blowing up schools full of children and innumerable wedding party’s it’ll be supreme act of restraint.
Syria isn’t a colony of any country, and it really makes no difference what Syrian think of this matter. Few countries have not been colonies or conquered by other countries at some time or another, so you can either wallow in self-pity, living in the past, or deal with reality and move on.
They aren’t critiquing the accuracy. They are questioning the intentions as it looks like Russia accurately targeted non-ISIS rebels which seem more problematic to Assad forces.
Agreed, but there is still some irony in us critcizing Putin because he might want to bomb different rebel groups than we want.
Alawites are a branch of the Shi’a. At any rate, they ain’t Sunni.
The longer they fight, the worse things get for Syrians who just want to live in their own country – and the worse the refugee problem other countries have to deal with.
I may not be some fancy head of state, but I can tell the difference between bombing one rebel group that wants to randomly behead children and carry out terrorist attacks in Europe, and another rebel group that wants to further the ideals of the Arab Spring by getting rid of a dictator.