It comes from a scene in the forth book when Bella (the human girl) and Edward (the vampire) finally have sex. Edward loses control and doesn’t realize his strength. He bruises and scratches Bella. He also bites and rips the pillows.
And that I know this much is sad. I’ve only read the first book, but find reading about the books so interesting and horrifying I can’t stop.
Dammit. Why must you post a TVTropes link … I’m trying to work here. I was failing hard without that sort of time suck just sitting there winking at me.
I endorse this thread.
Wow, that is indeed, awesome.
It also reminds me of the best depiction of a vampire I’ve ever read. Bunnicula. Anyone remember Bunnicula?
The Celery Stalks At Midnight!
I will subscribe to this neologism only if it is agreed that the I is pronounced with an “ee” sound. ![]()
Well, I always suspected that SkipMagic was a vampire, what with the blindingly pale skin.
NT – duplicated another person’s post
If we’re going to be pointing out how badass Twivamps are, I can tell you something my sister (who actually read the books) told me.
You know how you kill a Twivamp? You don’t just stick a pencil in its heart. You rip it into pieces and then burn the remains lest they reform.
Anyways, the problem with Twivamps is that they are OVER-powered, not sissies. They are each essentially superheroes or supervillains. They even get an extra power when they are formed. Like Edward’s reading minds, or Alice’s seeing into the future. They have almost all of the powers without any of the drawbacks. They even have a conscience or soul.
I still wonder what happened that suddenly made everyone go from them being too overpowered (and thus not real vampires) to being sissies.
There’s an episode of Buffy like that–a group of kids who pretty much worship vampires.
An old friend of Buffy’s is involved with them. It seems that the kids have a plan to have a vampire come pay a visit and turn them all. But it turns out that Buffy’s old friend is dying, and he’s arranged to trade all the others to the vampires as food, in exchange for them just turning him.
That’s because Joss Whedon is a tiny god.
When a couple of people I know were raving about the books, I got them, just so that I wouldn’t be the person sitting here saying “god those suck” without actually having read them. So, I can officially say:
The *Twilight *books are not only terribly written; they’re also some of *the *most disgustingly sexist things I’ve ever read. Among my favorite lessons: sexual assault is cute, and rape happens because women are beautiful.
I almost spat all over my keyboard.
Hellllllllllllllllls yes, woman!
Which is what makes them sissies, or at the very least Mary-Sues. What’s the point of a hero with all powers, no weakness ? It’s just boring.
The sissy part starts with the sparkling and wangst over teenage girls. If you do have unmitigated superpowers, fight crime, solve the energy crisis, destroy the Red Russian army on your own or save the Earth from ancient eldritch forces. At the very least, be in a rock band. But for god’s sake, don’t move back to frickin’ high school to bone jailbait ! What’s the matter with you ?!
Basically like zombies are depicted today except nocturnal.
I watch TRUE BLOOD but doubt I’d be at all interested if it didn’t have copious nudity from good looking guys. I really don’t understand the seemingly immortal popularity of the way overpopulated genre, but I swear it must be almost hard to submit a vampire novel and not get published.
I think the last good vampire movie was Shadow of the Vampire, and even that one the silent film setting helped tremendously.
The Swedish movie LET THE RIGHT ONE IN was fantastic.
We’ve gone from Dracula, where the vampire creeps in to the woman’s room to seduce her, to Twilight, where the vampire more or less creeps into the woman’s room to not seduce her. The taste of forbidden lust has been replaced by the taste of forbidden chastity.
What is it with kids today, and what the hell did we start the sexual revolution for anyway?
TERRY PRATCHETT WAS RIGHT?!? They do suck back!
I’m really enjoying it. (Cronin’s The Passage)
I enjoyed both the film and the book–and I’d recommend doing it in that order. There are some things that are different in the film from the book, or at least more ambiguous, which allows for a slightly different interpretation of certain things. If you read the book first, you’ll only be able to see the movie one way, whereas you won’t miss out on that if you read the book second.
I’ve only seen a few movies in the theater in the last few years and yeah, I feel like a lot of them have gratuitous boobies. Not gratuitous nudity - just breasts.
Off the top of my head: Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead and The Wrestler were both ‘serious’ movies featuring naked boobies (mostly Marisa Tomei’s) and some strip club scenes. I felt it was unnecessary, but at least it made sense within the context of both plots.
I think there’s a dozen threads on that issue over on GD, usually with the word “religion” in the title ![]()
What I do is remind myself there are three different “scenes”:
In one, anthropologists, folklorists, and the like seriously study the traditional tales of the supernatural, the uses of magic and herbalism, the syncretic incorporations of prechristian religion into Christianity, etc., as they were throughout history.
In the second, artists, fiction writers, poets, and more recent philosophers use some of the elements of those traditions to create new interpretations or to use the language and imagery in a new sense, as a way of exploration about the supernatural or the subconscious…
Finally, in the third “scene”, a bunch of fluffybunnies go all gaga over Magyck and Vampyres and Wicca 'cause oooohhhh it’s so cool and so rebellious and so sexy… these are the ones you find yourself wishing Cthulhu will chew very, very thoroughly. Some writers will pander to them but hey, it’s a free market.
I can live with Group 3’s high visibility, if groups 1 and 2 retain their integrity.
10-15 years ago it was angels, then hobbits, now it’s vampires. I predict a leprechaun fad soon. Tom Cruise IS Paddy the Leprechaun - he wants to use his secret pot of gold to fund sustainable energy research. But not if a fictional company very similar to British Petroleum has anything to say about it. Their chief scientist, Dr. Cameron Diaz, has just perfected an end-of-the-rainbow detection system. But she’s torn over its potential applications, and hot for Paddy in his little green velvet suit.