Yes, which is why you attack at faster than light speeds.
a. They can’t see you.
b. Even if they could detect you, there’s not enough time to do anything about it.
a. The gravitic sensors in the Honorverse do work at faster-than-light speeds (possibly infinite speeds).
b. They also work at ranges of several light-minutes. If Enterprise was going at warp 5 (125c in the TOS warp speed scale), and the dreadnought’s sensors picked it up from 20 light-minutes away, they’d have about 10 seconds to react.
Heh! I came in here just to ask about using the Picard Maneuver…and could also mention that at least once, a starship has transported alive photon torpedo aboard an enemy ship with disabled shields in combat, resulting in the destruction of the enemy vessel. (The only online video clip I could find demonstrating this was a dubbed Czech bootleg, unfortunately)
I’m woefully unfamiliar with the size and capability of the Honorverse ships in question, I regret to say. But count me as deeply afraid if 64-megatons worth of deuterium-antideuterium* isn’t* going to be enough to put a damper on their day. :eek:
And I’m pretty sure that even aside from onboard artificial gravity, a warp bubble itself would show up on Manticoran gravitic sensors. They probably wouldn’t have a clue what it was, but they’d see that there’s some sort of gravitational phenomenon moving around at super-c speeds.
Oh, and quoth Raguleader:
Still not even a close fight. Spock’s ability at hand-to-hand is mostly based on the Vulcan nerve grip. Going into the fight, he’s not going to know enough about treecat anatomy to be able to use it against Nimitz, and if he goes for Honor’s left shoulder (as he usually seems to), he’ll be in for a big surprise. Honor, meanwhile, has had training and experience with pretty much every form of combat known to man[sup]*[/sup].
- Off the top of my head, she’s fought life-and-death fights armed variously with: Bare hands, tableware, swords, gunpowder firearms, gravitic pulsers, her left finger, flechette guns, a suicide bomb, a yacht, a shuttlecraft, a pinnace, freighters, converted freighters, a destroyer, a light cruiser, a heavy cruiser, a battlecruiser, a superdreadnaught squadron, a fleet, and Parliamentary procedure.
The Picard Maneuver should not even work in the Star Trek universe.
All combat-capable Trek starships are armed with subspace sensor arrays that can pick up enemy ships at warp. Otherwise, a ship fleeing at warp speed would instantly become invisible. The Picard Maneuver would only work against an enemy ship whose tactical officers were so incompetent that they relied on their light-speed sensors to determine their target’s location.
Which is entirely irrelevant if you recall that they only work at detecting ships using gravitic drives (they detect the gravity wedges, not the ships themselves). The Enterprise would not show up on those sensors. The “pop” of going in and out of warp might be detectable, if we want to say that’s the ship punching through they hyperwall with all the subtlety of a bullet through a paper target (then again, Starfleet ships don’t travel in hyper, they just bend true space to go superluminal).
In other words, Ferengi.
They work at detecting artificial gravity sources. Honorverse impeller drives are one kind of artificial gravity source, but they’re far from the only ones.
The Enterprise’s own artificial gravity, which they use so that the filmmakers don’t have to use a KC-135 Vomit Comet to film the actors walking around on board, could surely be detected by Honorverse gravitic sensors.
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I would go further and say they work at detecting gravity sources, period. Small planetoids and up.
And like I said, I’m pretty sure a warp bubble is a gravitational phenomenon. At least, it can be modeled as such.
(yes, physicists have had a lot of time on their hands since Star Trek first aired)
Yeah, but he expected to die alone, rather than taken from heaven just to fall off a bridge.
They never said how many Kirk’s original Enterprise carried, but I’d guess a coupla dozen. Picard’s Enterprise-D carried 275 (ST:TNG “Conundrum”) and I’m sure Kirk had a lot less in his much-smaller ship. Presumably they’d restock at a starbase or from a supply ship, although Janeway seemed able to manufacture them aboard (just like shuttlecraft :rolleyes: ).
Yeah, when Voyager first started, I was pretty excited when they said exactly how many they had, and updated the count in my head every time they fired one. That’s good drama, seeing just how close you’re getting to running out of an important but irreplaceable resource. Until, of course, it became apparent that the writers just didn’t care.
Reading the Memory Alpha entry on photon torpedoes highlights how a lot of things in Star Trek have (as aired) contradictory capabilities. This complicates evaluating such a match up with Weber’s Honorverse.
The dreadnaught has circuit breakers. Advantage: Harrington.
And crash cages for the seats!
And self-sealing space suits for the crew.
And real alcohol!