Enterprise vs. Honor Harrington

Already pre-ordered. :smiley:

Another off topic question(although I think Honor would eat the Enterprise for breakfast)

Just how many different titles does Honor Harrington now hold? She’s a Steadholder of Grayson, an Admiral in the Grayson Navy, she’s Dame Honor, a countess of Manticore. And I think there are others. Not sure if Manticore had a term for wife, such as Mrs.

She’s a countess and a duchess. Last I figured it out, she’s something like Lady Dame Admiral Admiral Honor Stephanie Harrington, Steadholder Harrington, Duchess Harrington, Countess Harrington, Countess White Haven, PMV, KGCR, SG, MC, CGM (I had to Google to double-check the postfix abbreviations).

I wasn’t sure about her White Haven title. I know that the White Haven’s faith(Third Reformation Catholic?) can have more than one wife, but I wasn’t sure if a second wife was also the countess.

When did she become Countess Harrington? I know one of her titles got passed on to her cousin after she died (though I think that was a barony). Then when it turned out the reports of her death had been highly fabricated, she got her Duchessness.

Also, I think she is Admiral of the Fleet in both the Grayson Space Navy (second or third senior-most officer) and the RMN. Add to her titles: Commander Home Fleet, Commander, Protector’s Own Squadron, and Captain, HMS Unconquered. She may also have some rank in the Sidemore Navy, but I’m not sure about that one.

The only passage I recall on the subject is this one:

[QUOTE=At All Costs]
Admiral Lady Dame Honor Alexander-Harrington, Duchess and Steadholder Harrington (and possibly—Hamish wasn’t certain exactly how it would work out—Countess White Haven), walked across the shuttle pad lounge in a euphoric haze.
[/QUOTE]

Her first noble title was Countess, which was significant since it was higher than North Hollow’s barony. Then after she came back from Cerberus, Elizabeth explained that she had underestimated the significance of “steadholder”, and that it was more appropriately matched by “duchess”.

But that title was passed on to her cousin Devon when Honor was thought dead, and when he was killed in the Mesan attack passed to another cousin named Sarah.

I forget. Was there a lack of a way for her hereditary title to legally revert back to her after she was declared dead but turned up alive?

Did she decide not to challenge the transfer just to make the issue moot?


If I am declared dead in real life, and my estate is divided according to my will, and then turn up alive ten years later, do I have to sue to get my house back? Do I have any standing to sue? :eek:

She didn’t particularly care, but Elizabeth did in Ashes of Victory:

Ah, OK, I thought something like that might have happened, but didn’t want to rely on my memory to say anything about it.

Thanks!

Good luck on her digesting it, when it’s moving through her intestines at Warp Eight!

My hand-held TV remote control emits pulses of near-infrared light. My television has the ability to sense near-infrared light and interpret the pulses, as a means of communication.

Does that mean my television can track objects in space that emit near-infrared light, to the point of being able to target weapons on them?

No.

I said faster than light comm.

Here: Faster-than-light | Honorverse | Fandom

Even before the comm, they still tracked gravitational phenomena traveling at FTL speeds; they just hadn’t figured out how to use them for communications. In fact, gravitational phenomena are their primary way of gathering tactical data. So yes, to the point of being able to target weapons.

I was thinking about it. If the Big E stayed at warp, they could track it.

Their missles are essentially bomb pumped lasers. The grasers are light speed weapons. You would have to build a barrage of beams in the expected path of the Enterprise, and hope they fly through a beam.

Actually, the point I was trying to make was a much more minor nit than this, and probably qualifies as splitting hairs:

  • They can track grav sources.
  • Gravitational signals travel at FTL speeds.
  • Therefore, their tracking involves signals travelling at FTL speeds. This I don’t dispute.
  • BUT, they’re not used to tracking grav sources which themselves are moving at FTL speeds. They’re used to tracking ships in normal space. Can a ship in normal space track an enemy target that’s currently in one of the Hyper bands? I don’t think so – each hyper band is a different, parallel space, whose contents shouldn’t “leak out” into the normal universe.

So, all their onboard grav-tracking software is written with the notion in mind that no trackable source is going to be moving faster than c. The Enterprise violates that assumption. Even if an Honorverse ship can detect precisely where the Enterprise is while it’s at warp, its software might not be able to handle the fact that it’s moving at FTL speeds.
Admittedly, this is a minor nit. Once they realize that targets can move FTL in normal space, they could just assign Shannon Foraker or Aubrey Wanderman to rewrite the sotware. They’d have a fully functioning FTL-normal-space-targeting system in place inside of 2 minutes.

Of course, the Enterprise’s subspace sensors could see them firing missiles and beams before they hit. (Yes, they could see the beams too. Laser and Graser beams move at Warp 1. Their subspace sensors’ tracking signals move at, oh, warp 9-point-something. They have been able to see supernova explosions, with enough warning to outrun them, in previous episodes.) Then the Captain could just say:

“Execute plan B. Back up at warp 1.1, and lob photon torpedoes at them 'til they explode.”

(Photon torpedoes travel at warp 9, which is about 1000c.)

<all the torpedoes smash into the wedge or sidewall with zero effect>

“Ah, Captain. We’re out of torpedoes, and they appear to not be exploding.”