Epiphany of the Day...

One of the things that made me sure that my father was an abusive bastard was the following incident;

Back in 1966 or so, my science teacher father pulled some strings and got his family members a tour of the IBM Almaden Research Facility in south San Jose, California. Also present were my two older brothers and my cousin (whom I respected at the time).

The Almaden laboratory was where the hard disk drive (that the computer you are currently using utterly relies upon), was perfected. We were touring the facility that manufactured the IBM 360 (prehistoric times), which was the world’s fastest computer at that time. What we were about to see was the pinnacle of high technology and state of the art. Behind the glass windows we saw people in clean room suits manufacturing the delicate components of the very speediest electronic computer processor of its time.

In the parking lot, just before we were to enter the facility, my own father said to me (in front of all involved); “Now remember Chris, you’re the genius with laryngitis.” (Which meant that I should refrain from asking any of my usual stupid questions, as dyslexia had yet to be diagnosed).

This often surfaced in my mind as just another form of the abuse I had to endure from my own father until only the other day, when I had a startling epiphany.

Out of all of my family present on that occasion, I am the only person to ever enter one of those clean rooms in a professional capacity. Alone, out of all of us, I am the only one to pursue a career that has challenged the very limits of my own abilities to comprehend the machinations of semiconductor circuitry. All of them have settled into far less challenging niches that require none of the extreme mental exertions required by such a trade. All of them are currently more worried about who will cook their next meal for them than what shall be the next avenue of scientific exploration.

All of this was rather satisfying, since I have had to endure strange looks and askance glances when I have mentioned the sometimes obscure and admittedly complex work that I do.

Have any of you gone through this same weirdness?

I never understood the machinations of semiconductors either. Silicone Intrigue has always been above my head. I would imagine if I made them though, their plots would be, as they say, crystal clear. :wink:

You have already automatically dismissed yourself from any position of import in this discussion. Would you please care to try again?

Oh be damned! You have caught me for the invalid that I am. Forgive this humble one his mortal mistakes O lord.

[sub]What discussion?[/sub]

Wow… would you two like to be alone?

Good on you, Zenster. You sound like you’ve done quite well for yourself, and are exceedingly proud of yourself for having done so. Well done.

Of course, you prove yourself to be a perfect boor when you claim to have been unfairly judged as a child, and then proceed to dismiss the only respondent to your self-indulgent thread for a perfectly excusable typographical error.

Machinations of semiconductor cicuitry? I don’t understand THAT, but even** I ** can appreciate Epimetheus’ dual puns on the ridiculously self-serving term. Right now, I like her or him better than I do YOU.

PLEASE, Zenster, take a nanosecond (did this Theatre Major spell that right? Please be kind in your critique) to review your egotistical post and Epi’s perfectly polite and humorous response (complete with a WINKY) and see if you’re not being a tad oversensetive.

On a more somber note: Yes, it sounds like your father was, in 1966, a bastard by 2001 standards. I am NOT defending him. Perhaps some therapy is in order. I get all the validation I need in my sessions, and I don’t impugn anyone’s worth, intelligence or “import” in the process.

Well, ummm…when I was fourteen I did a really like sloppy job, you know, of painting my bedroom like pink & purple & black. My mom was like really really mad cuz I made a mess.

Now I own a successful painting company. Nah…I am sure that’s way too blue collar & stuff to count.

[sub]Whether I added or detracted from this discussion I have no idea.[/sub]

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha…(sigh)

[wipes tears out of eyes]

Thanks Carina, that was great!

I’ll cheerfully admit to being oversensitive to what was not a typographical error. The first few times its funny. After the several hundredth time of hearing everyone from newscasters to CEO’s confuse a polymer caulking compound with an elemental mineral, it’s no longer so hilarious. I’ll happily suggest that our mutual misuses cancel each other out.

I suppose I was using “machinations” in the ancient Latin sense, but, alas, I’ve made a hash of this plot. FarmerOak, I trust you noted that I did politely invite Prometheus’ brother back to the party when he was through with his weatherstripping?

PS: Carina, your humor always adds to the fun!

I still think it’s funny. The only time I got pissed about it was when I called Motorola’s Data Center for a data sheet on one of their transistors (MRF392 for you sparkies). After hearing the bimbo on the other end say “Oh, that’s the MRF392 Silicone RF Power Transistor,” I got annoyed. Then when I had to explain to her what a data sheet was, I got pissed.

Of course, this was after wasting nearly an hour on Motorola’s website trying to find the datasheet. Terrible site. It should be EMPed. On TI’s site I found the sheet I was looking for in 30 seconds.

(For you non-sparkies, a data sheet is a document, usually 4 - 20 pages long, that documents all of the detailed performance specification for a single electronic component.)

Apparently, Motorola decided to contract out for their documentation and distribution service, and of course the contractor hired minimum wage staff, instead of qualified people. Hell, the place was even in Boulder, CO where I got my BSEE. They could have hired engineering students, even.

That’s when I get POed. These people should know better. So I wrote them a letter… and I got an apology back, too.

Usually it’s just Beavis and Butthead funny (“uh huh, uh huh, she said ‘silicone!’”) And if I’m going to ignore someone’s opinion because they pronounced the word wrong, I’m certainly not going to tell them about it!

Ask me about “newkyoolure” sometime.

And, oh, yea: Zenster, you are dyslexic, and were subjected to psychological abuse from your father, and then become oversensitive about minor points of usage, and subject people to public abuse for it? I think we have another epiphany brewing.

Hey Zenster, I was just having a little fun…(heheheh Carina said fun.)

But seriously, I couldn’t get which point you were trying to get across. The being unfairly berated for being dyslexic? Failing at something & then overcoming obstacles? Your father was an insensitive shit? Your siblings are green teethed knuckle draggers?

Anyways I hope you’re also having fun getting your own back…just remember to have fun for yourself too. :slight_smile:

Are you really dyslexic? I’m dyscalculiac. Numbers look like Sanskrit to me and I can’t do second grade arithmetic. I gave up several academic paths because of that.

I must admit that my rebuttal was uncalled for, as Zen’s response was not alltogether harsh, and all did was end up looking like a presumptious ass. I appologize.

Actually I am well aware of the difference between Silicone and Silicon, and the added E was an error on my part. A typo if you will. One that I must admit that I did not catch. I was merely attempting jocular humor on the part of a word having a dual meaning, not insulting your use of said word.

I must admit I do see the irony of you debasing me and dissmissing me in a post in which you pointedly state that your father did so to you. And overcame it.
I have always been accused of being the stupid kid in the family, and repeatedly told I would never amount to anything. So far, I would say, that is so. I am going to go to school to learn Computers, programming or networking, really does not matter to me, and I think I might take the programing route. Nothing compared to the extreme intelligence required to engineer the silion chips, or design new ones by any means. But not bad for the stupid kid held back in 3rd grade I would wager. (you can feel all superior and lofty here) It will certainly be better than my parents (themselves not more than blue collar workers) had prophesized as my fate.

I know all about overcomming obstacles: Sneering parents, bullies, overcomming my own limitations in my intelligence(low IQ) overcomming my anger problems, my depression, snotty people who look down on me as inferior, dealing with other than good looks, being fat, going bald, and many many others. And I am young yet, so I cannot imagine what some of you have gone through, but I imagine I will prevail, as I have done in the past.

Be glad you have your Intellegence, many do not. Not through laziness or anything they can help, but because of other factors they cannot help, many of which work very, VERY hard to just be average. Some of us just get by hoping to spread a bit of cheer or laughter to the world, hoping that others’ happiness will break the gloom.

**Epimetheus,

Absolutely no apology required. You are to be commended for bootstrapping your knowledge base. Perhaps you are an autodidact like myself? I only have a high school diploma, but it has not stopped me from working on some of the most advanced projects, like Star Wars (SDI), the Stealth Bomber and designing a circuit for the Space Shuttle.

This board is precisely what the world needs to remedy low IQs, so please allow me to welcome you in no uncertain terms. Sadly, no one was able to distinguish high dudgeon haughtiness from snottiness on my part, so be it.

Thanks for being big enough to admit it. I’ll freely admit that your punning completely escaped me. Again, I suppose that is because I have seen the two terms used interchangeably for so long that any humor involved is utterly lost upon me (as I have most likely more than amply demonstrated).

Me too.

Guess again. Writing concise, fast executing code is an art form unto itself. Do it well, and you will have many doors opening wide for you.

With that good attitude, you shall.

**Yup.

**I always have fun. It’s why I’m here. At least bughunter understands me, (sniff).

[Ned Flanders]

Absotively, posilutely.

[/Ned Flanders]

And which one is supposed to be the better option, exactly?

i’m not sure what Epimetheus was apologizing for, but aren’t we we still short one apology?

What I distinguished was a pristine little example of the cyle of abuse.

God Zenster, I hope by now you have some idea that you had the wrong realization. And I guess, in the hope of nudging you toward a true epiphany, I’m gonna ask: Which is worse - stupidity or abusiveness? What would your father say?

And maybe some other ?'s:
what is stupidity?
How will we know when we’re not stupid?
Which is worse: being stupid, seeming stupid, or pretending to be smart?

I don’t know **Snooooopy. You’ve had Christmas dinner at my house and gone drinking with me, why don’t you pick for us.

Eh, I’ve been called worse.

Well, neither looks especially appetizing.

Anyone who has read more than a few of my posts here knows two things:

A) I rarely, if ever, use smilies, even when I convey sarcasm or irony.

B) I rarely, if ever, post anything intentionally mean to anyone here.

There are no apologies that need to be exchanged in either direction. I ask none from Epimetheus and he has asked for none from me. I think that he might understand me a lot better than others here who have known me longer.

I knew about a guy whose father was a very important politician, but everyone thought the son was, to put it nicely, not so bright. His father used his wealth and power to help set him up in a string of various jobs. He utterly failed in all of them.

Now the son holds the exact same job his dad once had, and Dad is now extremely proud of his boy!

Weird, huh?

Schwan, your story has touched me. It means a great deal to know that money, power and influence can overcome imbecility and venality.

Now, where can I get me some money, power and influence?