Essential New York

I’m planning my honeymoon to New York and my fiancee and I are big fans of doing stuff “off the beaten path.” We will do some of the obligatory tourist stuff (Statue of Liberty, Ground Zero, etc.), but we prefer not to do touristy things. We want to see the city as someone from the city would. Hidden restaurants, concealed cafes, bars known only to the locals, that sort of thing. If there is something that I might think is touristy, but you think is a must-do, please let me know. I’d had to miss out on the ESSENTIAL New York.

What is your favorite New York treasure?

That really depends on how off the beaten path you want to go.

Go to the Cloisters and make reservations at ‘The New Leaf Cafe’. Fabulous food great ambience and you’ll be surrounded by flowers.

Some ideas:

If you want to do the overpriced pretentious rooftop bar thing, Hotel Gansevoort in the Meatpacking District is pretty cool. In fact, that whole neighborhood has a lot of pretty cool bars and restaurants you might want to check out. Anytime you see a movie in NYC and a character steps out of a club or shitbox appartment onto cobblestone streets, generally that’s the Meatpacking District you are seeing. It’s not all that touristy either. At least not in the way Times Square is.

If you don’t mind standing in line for an hour, go to Madison Square Park in the 20s and get a burger and shake at the Shake Shack.

If faux dive bars are your thing, I recommend Off the Wagonon McDougal or it’s sister bar Down the Hatchon W 4th. In fact, that whole area around McDougal and Bleeker street is full of all kinds of bars and restaurants you can check out.

Zum Schnieder is a great indoor beer garden. It does tend to get packed full of NYU kids though.

No trip to NYC would be complete without stopping in at McSorlays(although it does get kind of B&T).

A few other neighborhoods / streets:
Murray Hill - 3rd Ave in the mid East 30s

St Marks Place in the East Village

Greenwich Street in the West Village

Alphabet City, specifically Ave A or Ave B

For breakfast (late night or regular time) I recommend Velseka on 2nd Ave and East 9th. Incidently it was featured in Nick & Norah’s Infinite Playlist,

Basement of Blue Smoke restaurant… B.East lounge “speakeasy”… E and V subway platform Lex & 53rd after 5PM (subway band gets a lot of ppl to join in)… vinyl LP store (think High Fidelity) near IFC theater… well… that’s me and I’m not even New Yorker… :o

Starbucks :smiley:

You can check out this place if you’re in the vicinity and into that sort of thing.

And if you can add one more “touristy” thing (that the locals love as well), it’s the Staten Island Ferry.

Magnolia Bakery. (I love those cupcakes like McAdams loves Gossling)

SO Overrated!! People stand in line, in the rain… why? They’re tasty but they’re not all that.

For pastries hit Veneiro’s on 11th St. just off 1st Ave. An italian bakery with reasonable prices. Or Juniors, for the cheesecake, near the Nevins Street stop on the 2/3/4/5 in Brooklyn.

Crumbs is another good bakery. They have a location at 75th & Amsterdam and I think another one on 8th Street & University Place.

Don’t concern yourself with what’s touristy and what’s not. If it’s a cool/fun/great place, you’ll find tourists…who cares? People who suggest those two are mutally exclusive have way to much time on their hands.

Factors you should consider are when you’re going to be in NYC, how much money you have to spend and if you’re willing to travel to other boroughs.

With that said, some of the things I woud recomend and yes, some people might consider these things touristy, but it doesn’t mean they can’t be a lot of fun.

See a play or a musical. IMHO, you would best be served by seeing a fairly recent production rather than one that’s been around for a while. It’s not to say that older plays/musicals aren’t worthwhile just that newer productions have an energy that older productions lack. Also, don’t eat in any of the chain restaurants in Times Square, there are tons of great restaurants in area, go to one of them.

Go to the Metropolitan Opera. I know a lot of people don’t care for opera but to see it, in it’s full scale glory, is amazing.

Go to the Cafe Carlyle in the Carlyle Hotel. Bobby Short and Eartha Kitt might have passed away but there is still great cabaret to be had there.

Go to Bemelmans at the Carlyle Hotel for a drink. Ludwig Bemelmans, creator of the Madeline books, painted the murals on the wall.

Go to museums: The Metropolitan, The Museum of Natural History, Frick, MOMA, Cooper-Hewitt, Guggenheim, Whitney, New York Historical Society, Asia Society, PS 1, New York Historical Society and tons more (esp. the Cloisters as someone mentioned above. The Unicorn tapestries shouldn’t be missed).

See if BAM (Brooklyn Academy of Music) has any productions that might be of interest to you.

Go to Central Park and Prospect Park. Tons of things to see/do in both parks. Also the new Highline Park.

Go to the New York Botanical Garden (Bronx), the Brooklyn Botanical Garden, Queens Botanical Garden, Wave Hill and Staten Island’s Scholar Garden.

Go shopping or window shopping: Walk down 5th Avenue starting at 59th street and make your way to the New York Public Library on 42nd Street. The Library usually has some interesting exhibits for people to see. You can also go to any of the hotels you see along the way for tea or drinks (more than casual dress required). Behind the NYPL is Bryant Park, which has a great restaurant, kiosks if you just want to grab something to eat, tons of places to sit and people watch and other things to do. You’ll see St. Patrick’s too, the architecture is amazing.

Also there is the King Cole Bar in the St. Regis (again more than casual dress required) on this walk.

Just a note, I haven’t seen one in a while but occasionally if you walk this stretch (usually in the 40s), you’ll see a 3 card monte dealer. Never play. You will lose.

I like music/cabaret so it might not be something that interests you but the Duplex and Marie’s Crisis are two of my favorite bars.

For dive bars, just walk around the East Village and you’ll find plenty. The same for Alphabet City but I love 7B’s (on Seventh and B) also known as the Horseshoe Bar. Also in the East Village, you can try a place called PDT but you should make reservations first.

Walk around: East Village, West Village, Tribeca, SOHO (maybe get drinks at Pegu), Chelsea, the Meatpacking District and the Lower East Side. Tons of restaurants/lounges/bars/shopping.

Go to Harlem and Inwood.

Go to Morningside Heights and see St. John the Divine, the largest gothic cathedral in the world.

For eating. If you want to break the bank, there’s Per Se. I also like Babbo, Nobu, Blue Hill, Convivio, Alto, Bar Bouloud, Prune, Dovetail, Spotted Pig and again, many, many more.

The area around 28th and Lex. is called Curry Hill because there are tons of great Indian restaurants, among others, around here.

Go to Chinatown in Manhattan for good chinese food (also Bahn Mi a Korean sandwich specialty) or Chinatown in Flushing. Queens for even better Chinese food.

Steak houses aren’t my bag but they’re really popular for some reason. The best steak house is Peter Luger’s in Brooklyn. Anything else is 2nd best.

There are tons of places that lay claim to best hamburger but P.J Clarke’s rocks. Good drinks, as well and Timothy Hutton is there hanging out sometimes (he bought part of the bar a while ago).

The best thing about NYC is you can get practically any kind of food here, Ethiopian, Afghani, Ecuadorian etc. Try a cuisine you’ve never had before.

When you get to NYC, get a copy of Time Out New York. It’s very useful and will have tons of things for you to do ranging from free to very expensive.
Also, their website is a terrific resource, definitely look restaurants, bars etc. to check prices.

Go to Peter Luger’s if you like to eat steak. I was just there last Wednesday - incredible. Their side dishes are pretty good too especially the German-style fried potatoes. They only take cash, by the way.

The Metropolitan Museum of Art has an incredible collection of armor, probably the best in America. Holy Roman Emperor Ferdinand I has a suit of armor there that has a protruding, curved metal penis-guard in the shape of an erect dick. Unbelievable. Also an incredible collection of antique guns, and musical instruments.

Veneiro’s is really good. I forgot about that place.

Originally posted by msmith537

In the mid-90s I spent many a happy hour at Down the Hatch. I worked around the corner (for very little money) and they used to do half-price on the whole bar from 5 - 7 during the week. I wonder if they still do that?

As for other bars to check out (if that’s your thing): Cedar Tavern on University Place near Union Square Park is a great “Old New York” tavern. Same thing for Peter McManus on 7th Ave. and 17th St. if you’re in that area.

My favorite places to eat in the city are Vynl and, if you get up to the Cloisters and are looking for really fantastic Italian food, Aqua Marina. If you want to have a good NYC hot dog make sure you get to Gray’s Papaya.

As for the other stuff I spend a lot of time at shows, museums, and other things people would normally catagorize as tourist destinations and find them to be tremendous fun. Don’t skip things that you would enjoy simply because tourists would also enjoy them.

I also recommend Crif Dogson St Marks.

If you feel like going up to the Bronx, hit Arthur Avenue for italian food - Dominick’s serves family style with no menus or prices. It’s loud and busy, though, so depending on what you’re looking for…

and there’s a retail market…

http://www.arthuravenue.com/index.jsp

Don’t waste your time trying to seek out a bunch of hidden treasures when there is a whole city full of really obvious treasures. What are you going to do? Spend three hours on the subway to go the the “best” Italian place in the Bronx* and skip the Met? Most of the “touristy” stuff is popular because it’s really freaking cool.

You’ll never experience New York as someone who lives there would. Just forget that part of it. It’s not about knowing the most cunning little pubs. It’s just an entirely different lifestyle.

My favorite “New York Treasure” that’s often overlooked is the New York Public Library on 42nd St. You know, the one with the big lions outside. It’s absolutely beautiful in there! To me, it’s just such a wonderful symbol of the grandeur and spirit of the city, and the incredible opportunities that New York offers to anybody and everybody. It’s free to enter, and definitely worth a half-hour of your time. Make sure to go to the main reading room on the top floor. And always look up–there are a lot of ceilings worth looking at in the place. Strangely enough, I think the library is “off the beaten path.” So many people just don’t think to actually go in and take a look around!

After that, go to Bryant Park (behind the library) and sit down for a few minutes and have a lemonade or something. Remember that Bryant Park used to be a shithole. Now it’s a gem. And Times Square is only a block away, so you might as well walk through it just so you won’t have to explain to people why you didn’t see it.

If you’re by Rockefeller Center, go into St. Patrick’s Cathedral. Again, it’s gorgeous. And free, though I usually throw a buck in the collection box. I’m Jewish and I love it.

Central Park is amazing as well. You can just choose a couple of things you want to see in the park and walk between them, and you’ll get a nice tour. Really, one of the best ways to see the city in general is to walk between destinations. You’ll see a lot as you go. I can outline a short walking tour that will take you past a lot of the major famous places mentioned here and in other posts.

And if you choose not to go to Liberty Island, at least take a ride on the Staten Island Ferry. Free. (do you see a theme, here?)

Do you happen to have any hobbies or anything? New York has so many little specialty shops that probably couldn’t exist elsewhere. Those are definitely worth your time. If nothing else, you’ll meet people who share your weird penchant for underwater D&D or whatever. (If you like beading or jewelry making, I could tell you where to find the wholesale bead houses–they sell to the public.)

I heartily second the idea of making sure to try out some new cusines. How often are you going to get to go to a Tibetan restaurant? Scratch that–Tibetan wasn’t so good, IMHO. Try Ethiopian. Or Korean, if you’ve never had it. As for other places to eat–Veselka is indeed great, and I just love the Cantonese wonton soup at Ollie’s Noodle Shop. (Opinions may vary!) There are several Ollie’s around, and it’s cheap.

Where are you staying?

  • On preview–Gigi’s post wasn’t there when I wrote the above! I wasn’t trying to dump on her suggestion at all. I’ve never actually been to Arthur Avenue, much to my consternation, and I hear it’s great. But I still wouldn’t skip the Met for it.

Find your own treasures! Check the weather and try to squeeze the ‘must-dos’ (including dinner reservations) into the bad weather days, then spend the rest of the time walking around and checking out every store or gallery that catches your fancy, taking a nap in Central Park then catching some Shakespeare. There will always be something going on, wherever you go, but check out TONY or New York magazine’s site for fun upcoming stuff like author readings and weird little art shows.

Also, it is hardly hidden, but Cafe Habana on Prince is honestly my favorite restaurant in the whole city. It’s packed and dirty but I would seriously step over the corpses of a dozen hipsters to sink my teeth into that corn.

Thanks for all the great ideas so far!

I don’t know if this changes anyone’s suggestions (or hopefully creates new ones), but I should have been more specific as to when we’re going. We’re going end of January. I know, we’re crazy. Then again, we live in WI, so New York in winter isn’t much different.

Any winter-specific ideas, too?

Do you ice skate? Ice skate at Rockefeller Center!

Great minds think alike, sort of! :stuck_out_tongue: