Essure 0, Super Fertility, 1

Yes, I don’t deny that. But they don’t tell you anything about that .2%, do they? Not whether they were ectopic, not whether the implants caused a problem if a pregnancy continued, nothing. :stuck_out_tongue: Fie on them. It’s not even available to doctors that I can find.

Here’s a discussion of pregnancy and essure:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYD/is_1_40/ai_n8968463

Hm. Thank you for that link. That’s interesting, and I guess it’s some comfort to know I’m not the only one. It should be interesting to find out (if we ever find out) what the failure was, since as far as I know I passed the HSG with flying colors.

Hugs

That’s just fucked up. And I’m sorry.

I got pregnant with my son using 2 forms of BC. I’m now extremely paranoid myself. So I sympathize.

Can you husband get snipped too? That’s better than a hysterectomy.

I hope it works out whatever way is best for your family.

Chotii, that really sucks.

I’m praying for you, for a good outcome (as you defined it).
Whatever happens, please don’t feel guilty or blame yourself or your husband. You did all the things you’re supposed to, and you’re still doing that. Just take care of yourself and try not to panic until you know exactly what you’re dealing with. You’re a strong lady and I know that you’ll deal with whatever comes.

Admittedly, I hope this one works out since I don’t like the idea of your child-to-be not making it and/or you anyone getting hurt in pregnancy.

Hopefully, Congratulations along with Good Health? :confused:

I still can’t find any information about the pregnancies themselves - outcome, complications, etc. but somebody, somewhere, should know. I guess it doesn’t matter what happened to those women, only what is happening with you - but I can’t help but wish there was more information.
I’ll be thinking of you.

Best wishes Chotti…on the plus side, you know to look for the etopic, that makes catching a burst much easier (and you may not have to catch it at all with the ultrasound. And you aren’t interested in saving the tube if it does burst.

That sucks.
So sorry.
I hope that things work out for the best for all concerned.

Also, don’t mean to sound insensitive but I totally laughed out loud at this-

See Post #18 from Chotii where she explains this.

Choti, just offering my best wishes for whatever happens, and my sympathies for being on the wrong side of some good odds. I hope you stay safe, no matter what other outcome you and your husband choose.

There does not appear to be an ectopic pregnancy. Both tubes (with the Essure implants in them) could be seen. The left ovary has a large cyst, probably a corpus luteum cyst.

There appears to be a ‘very early’ gestational sac with a ‘double deciduous ring’ whatever the hell that means, in the uterus. This is indicative of pregnancy. It was too early to see a fetal pole, much less a heartbeat (at 5 weeks, during my twin pregnancy, nothing could be seen at all; at 7 weeks both babies were visible. Since I’m at roughly 6 weeks, that sounds right.)

So I called my mom before hand. She brought up the subject about how, if I wind up on bedrest (if?? It’s a given), she and dad would help by paying for some in-home help. If I could be home on bedrest, we could probably get by with someone coming every day or every other day, fixing some meals, portioning them out, maybe washing some laundry, buying groceries, sweeping the kitchen.

After the exam, I called mom again to tell her the update, and she made a snide comment about us “doing it ourselves” and “not taking money from other people.” Like mom knows what it’s like to be stuck in a fucking bed for 3 months, forbidden to get out except to go to the bathroom and maybe shower every other day, while trying to take care of a house, a husband, and 4 kids. “Do it yourself.” Right.

Christ, mom, why don’t you just offer out a bit of hope, and then bash me for being grateful and willing to take it?

She did it last time too. I asked for help when I was on bedrest with the twin pregnancy (not money) and we got told it was inappropriate to have asked, and we should just “do it ourselves”. So we hired somebody at very great expense. I knew better than to even ASK with the next baby, which was as close to the Ultimate Unplanned as you could get and not be this baby. I wasn’t asking for help this time either. I KNOW better.

My mother-in-law helped us out last time, to the tune of 40-50 hours a week for 2 months. She wore herself out. She was of inestimable help but we got at each other’s throats because of unimaginable stress, divergent expectations, and a fundamental inability to communicate about them (which has always been true - but stress didn’t help). I’m on good terms with my mother in law right now. I want that to remain true. So this time, I’d like to simply hire in some help. We can’t possibly afford it. Not and eat. Not and pay the electricity and water and insurance and mortgage. In-home help is very expensive. The last lady we had was $13 an hour and that was 5 years ago.

The only things we’ve got going for us this time that we didn’t have last time are these:

  1. The girls will be on summer vacation by the time I go on bedrest,
    so no dance classes to have to get them to (or pay for).

  2. I know what to expect this time, and can plan in advance,
    including filling the freezer with casseroles, and whatever else.

  3. A friend’s mom, who came up last time around for a week, says she’ll be willing to come up for a few weeks again in late July/early August.

  4. If I get a cerclage, maybe I can be at home on bedrest instead of
    in the hospital. I didn’t do that last time, and by the time there began to be problems (20 weeks) they told me it was too late, couldn’t do one, the
    risks was too high. By 24 weeks I was hospitalized - and stayed
    there until 33 weeks.

It sucked. Big time. For a long time.

This would all be so simplified if I believed abortion to be an acceptable alternative in this situation. But I don’t. I never have. And I cannot justify it to myself now.

I really wish I could just let myself cry for about an hour.

hugs

I’m glad it’s not ectopic, even though that would have solved so much for you. I will think of you in my prayers.

Why can’t you? Go take a long shower and get it out. It’ll make you feel better.

You’re a good mom and you’re going to be a good mom to this baby. I just wish things were a little easier for you.

E.

I don’t think abortion is ever a simple solution, but in many cases it definitely is the right one. I definitely sympathize with you.

And can I just say that part of me finds your situation a touch odd, because I was just listening to the song Chotee by Bif Naked, which is all about getting an abortion.

Sorry to hear that your mom is being so unhelpful. I am sure it’s all quite shocking and overwhelming right now, but I certainly hope that this 1 in a million baby ends up bringing a lot of joy to your life. :slight_smile: You might be interested in this blog of someone I know who endured a very unpleasant pregnancy (to the point that at first she was thinking about abortion despite having been through a very traumatic abortion previously) including several months of bedrest: http://hyperemesisgravidarum.blogspot.com
Perhaps the last few entries there can be helpful as a reminder that all the unpleasantness won’t last forever. All the best wishes to you and your family!

Your mother is wrong, she might mean well but she’s dead wrong.

You should ask for help when needed, often friends want to help but just don’t know what they can do. So they ask generic questions and throw out the ‘if you need anything just call’ and we say ‘oh, we are fine, thanks’ and that’s just dumb. Granted, not everyone who tosses statements like those around truly means they’re willing and able to come assist with the mundane stuff, but betcha some of them actually are.

I’ve scrubbed my girlfriends toilets and done their laundry and cooked for their families and did homework with their kids, and they’ve done the same for me. Geez when my sister was carrying triplets we set up assigned shifts for ourselves. Mom’s aren’t the only one’s that can help, allow your girlfriends to assist you when you need assistance and don’t feel like you’re imposing if they offer. It’s a temporary situation that you didn’t ask to be placed in, don’t listen to Mom and feel like you can handle it all yourselves, it’s impossible!

Deciduous rings? Are you carrying a tree? :stuck_out_tongue:

Bloody hell, Chotii, I wish you lived in the Pacific South East instead. I could help out. I simply cannot understand the attitude of your mother and hope that you are able to get the help you need.

First, ignore the guilt train your mother is trying to run you over with.

Some parental units are unable to give or even think of anything hopeful and cheery. It’s like they are Eeyore. Don’t let them get you down.

Secondly, I wish you the best of health and luck during this time.

Thirdly, can’t you sell #5 on ebay? :slight_smile:

Do Dopers get to help name it?
Hey!
You could auction off the right to name the baby on Ebay…obligatory linkiepoo