Ever been shocked at what some people don't know?

Ditto.

You don’t need much beyond the title for the first verse:

We shall overcome
We shall overcome
We shall overcome
Someday

Still, that’s more than I know. I don’t know what the melody is. I do feel somewhat embarrassed, as I do know the song’s place in history, and have certainly heard references to it countless times, but have never (apparently) actually heard the song. I just listened to it on YouTube, and I’m afraid it doesn’t really sound familiar.

Fascist

Indeed. :smiley: I did word that poorly.

Except it’s not just your studies you need to consider. Word is a tool used throughout the developed world as the standard word processor, or if not there will be a variant of it. I don’t have to use citations in my work, but if I didn’t know how to use track changes I couldn’t do my job (a big part of which is around checking contracts and submissions of other legal documents). Even in the non-legal aspect, if you want to do a job that requires you to do iterative drafting then revision and version control using anything OTHER than track changes is something I wouldn’t even want to think about having to try and do.

Life doesn’t end at graduation, it begins there.

Look at this way…

Something you’d be shocked someone doesn’t know: That Word exists, that Word is made by Microsoft, that Word is used to type up letters or memos or reports or what-have-you.

Something you shouldn’t be shocked someone doesn’t know: A not-well-publicized feature of Word.

See how easy that is?

Perhaps, but that wasn’t my point. She was saying she was surprised that college seniors ever got that far without using it. I was offering a counterpoint saying that, as a college senior, I’d not be surprised if somebody in my major hadn’t seen it. I will amend and say I did use track changes myself once (for peer reviews), so it’s not totally foreign to me. I was responding to her surprise that Track Changes and the Citation Tool weren’t known to college seniors, when depending on your major it’s possible to barely even touch Microsoft Word for three out of four years of your college life, much less have an extensive many-paged group project involving entirely word-processor friendly typesets and formatting that would spur its use.

Missed Edit: Also, there are alternatives. I’ve had two very large projects where we needed version control of text documents, (incidentally, both of these were small video games for two different classes). We ended up using a Wiki (with password protected university-supplied server space) because the compartmentalization was a benefit. Wikis come with their own history pages, revert buttons, etc. For smaller files (i.e. .txt bug lists), letting the subversion revision tree keep track of the changes was plenty (if a bit annoying in some cases).

I’m not saying Track Changes isn’t useful, like I said, I tried it, if you’re in a situation where the end product is a text-file that’s Word-friendly (nothing complex like theoretical math or complicated graphs), you don’t need to compartmentalize it, and you need to track many changes between many people, MS Word’s Track Changes feature is probably the best at what it does. For other cases, there are plenty of options that will work more than “good enough” and sometimes maybe even better (like a private wiki).

I totally get this. I did not comprehend how quarter past meant fifteen minutes until I was in my 20’s. It was on the same exchange rate as money in my mind. When it finally clicked in my brain I felt so stupid.

Surely you jest. Then again, I’m old(52) and didn’t grow up with digital clocks. When you see “a quarter after” on the face of a traditional clock, it’s pretty obvious.

I once knew a girl who worked at a fast-food place and her manager(an adult) didn’t understand that 2.5 hours was two and a half hours. She thought 2.3 hours was two and a half hours.

A girl in a social-justice-type class I took my senior year in high school (whispered to a friend next to her):

“What are landmines?”

This was an honors class. To be fair, I’m pretty sure I learned what they were through a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon.

I was also rather surprised when my boyfriend didn’t know what crepes were. In his defense, he’s lived with his meat-and-potatoes father most of his life, who mostly made the same thing every day, so I can understand how this would come about. (He RAVED about my steamed fresh broccoli when he first had it–he’d only had it frozen and boiled to death.)

Misconceptions and ignorance of facts stopped shocking me so long ago I can’t really remember. I’m busy enough catching myself acting/talking based on the wrong premises.

OTOH there are some that leave me not shocked but puzzled, as in, wait did I hear that wrong in third grade? or as in, you weren’t paying attention every time this happened for the last 20 years, were you?. Just today I had someone here, not a new voter, who needed it explained that in a primary you can’t vote “straight ticket”, you need to vote for each contender individually, because they’re all in the same party (she thought that marking for Mitt or Rick or Newt would automatically count as a vote for everyone who endorsed him locally; I had to remind her that in the local races you may have multiple candidates who endorsed the same guy or multiple candidates who endorsed nobody).

Hope they turn out good. If you taste it and think “Yuck!”, you won’t know whether it’s supposed to taste like that or not. :slight_smile:

I’m amazed at how many people think they’re supposed to leave seller feedback in Amazon product reviews. So a book is rated 1 star (poor) on Amazon because the only person who’s left a “review” was rating a seller who didn’t deliver or delivered goods that were worse than the described condition.

I wasn’t suggesting that everyone should have seen it - I was suggesting I’m amazed someone in the later process of studying a college degree hasn’t.

See how easy that is?

I’ve got an undergrad degree and a graduate degree. I never once used the “Track Changes” feature for either one. Even when there was group work.

Yeah, i’m well aware of the track changes function, but i never knew about it until i went to grad school. I got through my whole undergrad days without ever using it, and without (as far as i can recall) ever needing such a function.

The main thing i use it for now is marking up and grading student papers. All my students’ written work is submitted online, and using the track changes feature allows me to correct errors, make edits, add comments, and all sorts of other stuff, in ways that show the student what i’ve done, and how my suggestions and my corrections are different from what they have written.

re: track changes:
Add me to the “never used it in college” list. I don’t think anyone did. We didn’t do large, group documents. I only used it in grad school because I was coauthoring journal articles with my PI.

I also never used a citation manager until grad school. I knew they existed, but honestly they’re more trouble than they’re worth until you get above a certain threshold. I’m a chemist, and I really wasn’t citing that much in undergrad, even in my thesis. I use Endnote extensively now.

I’m sure we could get an interesting list of words people have read but never heard pronounced, or at least never made the connection between sound and text. I was embarrassingly old when I realized that the letters that look like they sound like “whores duh oh vrays” were the hors d’oeuvres that I had heard, said, and eaten.

Yeah, I wondered for a long time why I had never seen the word *ordurves *in print.
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