Ever served on a jury?

I’ve served on one criminal jury and one grand jury.

The service during the criminal trial left a bitter taste in my mouth. One of my co-jurors was wearing tennis whites and no sooner had we adjourned to the jury room for deliberations did she announce, “The guy’s guilty and that’s all there is to it. I’m not changing my mind. I’ve got a tennis match in half an hour so let’s get this over with.” We hadn’t even elected a foreman yet and she’s down a break in the second set. The next time I was selected for jury duty, when the judge asked if there was any reason why we shouldn’t be empaneled I told the judge my story and said I had lost confidence in the system. I was excused.

My grand jury experience was much better.

The only time I was called for jury duty I was chosen to be on the jury. I was pretty excited, actually, as the judge said the case would only take a couple of days and I thought it would be a good experience. Overall, I still think it was a good experience, but I was very surprised at how illogical and random many of the jurors were. It also made me never ever want to go to trial, no matter how iron clad the evidence supporting my innocence was.

It was a domestic abuse case. The defendant was a middle-aged man, charged with two misdemeanor counts due to him pushing a glass against his wife’s throat and leaving a mark (battery and something else), and one misdemeanor count of resisting arrest when he balked in a doorway as officers were trying to lead him outside to talk (at which point they tackled him to the ground). There was a 911 tape when the wife locked herself in the bathroom and left the phone on, where we hear him screaming at her, kicking the door down, and then what sounded like him slapping her before leaving to go throw their couch out into the yard.

Either the slap or the glass-pushing were grounds for guilty verdicts on the first two counts, but we ended up deliberating for almost two days. I thought his defense was highly unbelievable – he alleged that she came home, drank an entire bottle of champagne by herself, and then tripped and fell face first onto the carpet, giving her throat a rug burn. However, one juror kept focusing on the fact that the two parties gave contradicting testimony on completely unrelated facts, i.e. who knocked all the CDs off the coffee table and when. She also didn’t seem to understand the idea of reasonable doubt, despite numerous explanations from the judge and us that it did not require video footage and twenty eyewitnesses to corraborate every detail in the case. She kept coming up with bizarre explanations for what happened despite the fact that they conflicted with both party’s accounts of the evening. I wanted to punch her by the end of the second day.

Another juror also contended he had reasonable doubt, although he didn’t want to discuss specifically what facts he had doubt about. I later learned that he had researched (incorrectly) the penalties for the crime, despite explicit instructions from the judge not to do so, and thought we were sentencing the guy to years in jail for something he himself clearly didn’t think was a big deal. (The prosecutor told us aftewards that the defendent probably got community service and mandatory anger management training, with no fines or jail time.)

Once we finally reached a guilty verdict on those two counts, I assumed the third would be a cake-walk. The resisting arrest charge simply didn’t fit the definition given by the judge, as the defendent briefly paused in a doorway on his way outside, at which point he was put into a restraining hold. However, one juror (who we learned in jury selection had been hit by boyfriends in the past) refused to agree to a not guilty verdict on anything, and thus went to great semantic lengths to argue that hesitating in a doorway for a second constitutes resisting arrest. We spent another day discussing it with her until she finally relented and we agreed on a not guilty verdict for that one.

All in all, I was amazed by how 12 well educated and otherwise intelligent people could come to such different conclusions and have such different abilities to sort through evidence and make a reasonable decision. I think that posting here really gave me skills I wouldn’t have otherwise had to listen to opinions different than mine and make a convincing argument about what was best fit the facts, without getting upset or calling anybody names. (That last part was very hard sometimes.)

Count me as one of the few who WANTS to be called for jury duty. :smiley:

I was on a civil case last year and it was one of the most surreal experiences of my entire life. Basically, this guy was suing his doctor for medical malpractice because the doctor had prescribed Prostaglandin (kind of a Viagra precursor). The man took the medication and apparently sustained an erection that lasted 14 hours before he bothered to go to the emergency room. Due to the amount of time that he waited, he sustained permanent damage that led to him having to have a penile implant, etc.

Basically, there were three questions posed to the jury and each question had three sub-parts. We heard a ton of testimony on the standard of care, mainly regarding whether a doctor had to write in his notes that he had informed the patient of the risks of a medication.

The thing is, we all felt bad for the guy (the complainant). But he had a slew of credibility problems, such as being unable to accurately recall the month and year he had married his two wives (gave different dates in his original statement as opposed to his court testimony). Plus, we all had a difficult time with the idea that he had had an erection for fourteen hours and was not in any discomfort–he testified that he had taken a nap around the 10-hour mark. There were other bizarre factors as well, including some of the complainant’s other statements. Some of the courtroom moments were potential giggle-inducers if it hadn’t been for the fact that we had the world’s strictest judge. One of the expert witnesses had the most unfortunate habit of licking his lips each time he said the words “erectile dysfunction”.

In the jury room, our basic feeling was that we were getting two sides of a story and that the truth was somewhere in the middle. Some of the doctor’s practices seemed a little shady, but the complainant’s lawyer seemed incompetent and certainly didn’t prove the case well. It took us about 2 1/2 days of deliberation to render the verdict (doctor not guilty on all counts).

It was just plain weird to think that the outcome of what we discussed in that room would strongly affect this guy’s life. Not an experience I would care to repeat by any means.

I have served on several juries over the years.
A civil trial (product liability) over a fall through a shower door. This one settled during the trial.
A drunk driving case where the defendant refused the test. His defense was inability to understand the language. Yet he graduated high school here in the states, and worked at a Mickey D’s during high school. He used an interpreter during the trial. The capper was that he was observed talking to his lawyer without the interpreter. Guilty.
I was the foreman on a murder trial. Guy got drunk, (in a park at 9AM) went to see his GF, went and drank some more, went to her place got mad, went out to the street grabbed a club (the auto lock) and beat some guy who was nearby working on a car to death. No reason for it. Guilty murder 2. One of the jurors was a flippin idiot. He wanted to re-examine evidence to the nth degree plus. We went through all the evidence, and agreed that the physical evidence pointed to this guys guilt. Then we went though the testimony of each witness and we all agreed on whether we believed what he or she said. We all agreed that the state’s witness were truthful and the defense witnesses were lying, and this guy then wanted to go back over the physical evidence again. After that he wanted to go back over the witness statements again. Later rinse and repeat. he wanted to intoduce his own evidence, and consider that! This guy took 4 days to reach a decision that the rest of us did in about 1.
Then there was my favorite jury experience. I was on a legal malpractice case. A guy had an auto accident, goes to lawyer to file case to recover damages. Attorney claims that he told this guy that he had no case. Guy claims that attorney did not tell him that and in fact took him on as a client and then did not file suit therefore depriving him of restitution. So we got to hear the testimony about the underlying case (traffic accident) before we could hear about the legal malpractice. In what can only be described as a Perry Mason like moment it came out in testimony that this guy was a one man auto accident ring and was lying through his teeth. The plaintiff and his attorney both signed an agreement that they knew that the charges were false when they filed them! In return for that the lawyer agreed not to sue their pants off. :smiley:
Did I mention that the plaintiff limped into court every AM and limped out every night. But when he left after signing that agreement he did not have a trace of a limp. dubious:
Since the case blew up very early in the day we got to sit and talk with the judge, defendant and his lawyer. Very interesting experience to say the least. :

Actually, as frustrating as parts of the experience were, I thought it was very interesting. I also would not try to get out of it if called again – the more sane people who dodge jury duty, the less justice in our justice system.

I served on a jury where the defendant openly admitted guilt. The only quibble was the amount of compensation the plaintiff should get.

The defendant ran a stop sign and t-boned the plaintiff, who wanted $60,000 for her pain and suffering. However, she was a lying scheming greedy bitch who tried to pin every illness that had ever happened to her to the car accident. Her own doctor testified that there is no way any of her chronic illnesses could have been caused by the accident.

Despite the obvious dishonesty and money grabbing of the plaintiff, there were quite a few members of the jury who wanted to give her the full 60,000 anyway “just because it wasn’t their money and who cares?”. Stupid idiots.

I and a few other reasonable people managed to talk them down to $18,000, though I wanted to give her nothing for her obvious and blatant greed. Sure you can blame broken bones and the immediate hospital time on the accident, but trying to foist off gout, bursitis ( which was caused by one leg being shorter than another) and some other blood diseases on the impact of a single event was just wrong. She even cried when she testified- aw how sad…too bad every medical witness called to the stand said she was basically a liar.

The best part of the whole trial was the look on the faces of the plaintiff’s attorneys when the amount of the verdict was read…heh I bet their legal costs were higher than what they made. Serves them right for siding with a scammer.

You don’t lie to the people who have to decide how much money you get…they might find out.

I was on a jury for a murder trial about 17 years ago. The trial lasted about a week, and we had been sequestered the entire time. It was finally time for the deliberations to start, but first they had to select two alternates from the jury. See, they had 14 of us listen to all the testemony, but only 12 jurors would actually take part in the deliberations; the other two were to be alternates in case of illness or what have you by someone during deliberations. They actually pulled numbers out of a hat, and I was suddenly one of the alternates. After sitting through the entire trial, I did not get to take part in the decision making process. I found that to be very disappointing and frustrating.

First time I received a jury duty summons was for the federal courthouse here. This was in the late 1980’s.

I soon found myself placed as an alternate on the jury for a trial of four men who were alleged to be part of a much larger group who were all being charged with marijuana smuggling and possession with intent to sell. (The whole group was being tried three or four at a time.)

During the trial it became glaringly obvious one of the defendants had never been near where all the activities of the larger group had occurred. Testimony clearly placed him in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, the entire time all the activities of the group had been occurring in Arizona and southern California.

As to the other three defendants, my impressions during testimony were the prosecutor had built good cases against them.

Similar to tggk, when testimony was completed and the case was given to the jury the alternates who had not been seated on the jury, including myself, were released and sent home. The judge’s clerk told me she would call to tell me the verdicts. A few days later she did so and told me two of the defendants had been found not guilty (including the one who had been living in Jackson Hole) and the other two guilty.

Ever since then, all the jury summons I have received have been for the state courthouse. And each and every time I have been sent to a court there and put on a voir dire panel I have been released during peremptory challenges by the prosecutor and the defendant’s attorney.

EDIT: My last sentence should finish “…released during peremptory challenges by the prosecutor OR the defendant’s attorney.”

tgkk,

What was the verdict? Did it match your preliminary assessment?

Haj

I find this thread very interesting and informative. I appreciate everyone sharing their thoughts and concerns. It does my heart good to see so many people taking jury duty so seriously.

I do have a couple of questions for some of the posters, but don’t feel like you have to answer if you do not wish too. I’m just interested.

Did the female agent testify that the defendant sold her the cocaine? If all the prosecution put on was the tentative ID by the surveillance officer, I can see why you would have a tough time. But if the officer to whom the defendant sold the cocaine testified the defendant had sold her cocaine, it would make the case odd. Why all the focus on the surveillance officer rather than the officer who made the deal?

I’ve always been interested in how the rest of the jury deals with the one who just doesn’t get it. How was she treated? Why did she remain so reticent in light of the jury instructions regarding accomplice liability? Did you get a chance to tell the judge or prosecutor that there was only one holdout?

Does it seem to you that sometimes in deliberations some jurors just leave their common sense at the door and search for doubt? Is that kind of what you are describing, or was it something else that led to a two day verdict on a misdemeanor battery case?

I’m glad you said that. I’d take a jury of Dopers, with certain glaring exceptions, any day.

Thanks in advance for your time.

You know, I’m still struggling with what conclusions to draw from this. This is my only jury experience, so I don’t know what other trials are like. I think the amount of evidence was right at the borderline between almost enough to be sure, but not quite enough to not have some doubts either way.

One juror did have no common sense or critical thinking skills, which is the main reason we deliberated for two days on the first two charges. The defense attorney tried to raise doubts by bringing up many different events unrelated to the charges, i.e. who knocked CDs on the floor and when, and it worked like a charm on this juror, who confused “reasonable doubt” with “having any doubt whatsoever about any statement made by anybody at any point in the trial or later by other jurors”.

One problem we struggled with was the fact that several jury members wanted the judge to tell us exactly how to make our decision, when in fact it was our job to decide if the actions we heard about fit the law as written. This lead to the semantic games of our third day of deliberation, trying to convince a juror that obstructing or delaying arrest can have a standard of reasonable expectations of behavior applied, and not just drop it on anyone who pauses for a fraction of a second in response to a police officer’s instructions.

Re Hamlet’s question to Giraffe: I know it wasn’t directed at me, but in my case, the one juror who really caused the deliberations to drag on was frustratingly vague about why he felt the way he did. The rest of us kept trying to explain to him that the complainant had to prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt, and this juror kept saying, “Well, he proved it to me.” Then he was unable or unwilling to say anything specific about how the testimony/evidence caused him to reach this conclusion. I think he was basing things more on his gut feeling than any evidence shown—it also felt like there was a racial component, since the complainant was African-American and this juror was the only African-American man on the jury.

On the plus side, the judicial system seems to make an effort to throw out the people who really have no critical thinking skills, as there was a woman in my jury pool who was convinced that being called to jury duty was a penalty for her son’s imprisonment. She definitely caused quite the little scene during voir dire, but was cut from the selection process, thank goodness.

I get rejected. I’m a jury reject. Can’t get over it.

:frowning:

It’s OK. Jury selection criteria can be pretty bizarre a lot of the time. The important thing is you did your duty and showed up.

Hey, I was shocked to get picked for the trial I was on, because my mom is in the medical profession. In the jury pool before that, that was presumably the reason I was rejected (it was a hit & run). People get tossed out for all kinds of reasons.