Everest: Just Don't Do It

The first non-Sherpa reached the summit. He left early and waited 12 days at Camp 2 so he could climb the last stages while everyone else left Basecamp.

The rest of the teams should be making their summit attempts in the next few days.

There are about 30% less climbers this year than last. So maybe the summit logjam will be eased somewhat this season.

I heard there’s a donut shop up there that uses a recipe unique to that area, and they aren’t available anywhere else because they must be eaten very fresh, and have a slight tendency to “deflate” at lower altitudes/higher air pressure.

Well then there must be cops up there too.

A climbing guide, Dipak Mahat, who fell ill Monday at Camp II has died from altitude sickness.

The first-ever all-black team has summited.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CdgfFoYOa79/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

and for the record among his 2 sentence published statement was this inspiring gem

such a noble brotherhood :rage:

I’m not sure what alternative you would have preferred. The choices are either to walk among the corpses or to become one (or to not go at all, which is the much more sensible option).

Yeah, unless this climber actually killed all those other people I’m not sure of your point. All those corpses walked past other corpses on their way; the climbers all know what they’re getting into and accept the risk.

Wonder if they did a haka when they got there.

ISWYDT :wink:

Time for an updated chiller of a movie.

You do know that “the corpses” in Everest tradition Include people who are alive, and might be saved if they are carried down except the “hero” walks right by them on the fucking way UP, as well as on the way down?

now… defend how this is a noble endeavor?

I’m confused–you said it was noble and now you want someone else to defend your words?

So fill in the blank with one, or more that one, non-dismissive answer(/s)? Climbing Everest is a(an) _________ endeavor, considering they walk past dying people for fading glory on the way up , as well as on the way down.
Before you start answering please take into consideration the statements of the most recent statements of those who have completed this activity, as well as the existence of irony, Bonus points for identifying the exhibition of irony in the preceding , relevant, statements.

If this level of subtlety is beyond you, I will make it clear in the near future.

I was confused by your response because the climber you were discussing did not walk past any dying people on his way up or down. If your commentary refered to past climbers and not the one you quoted, then yes, the level of subtlety was a little too much.

I’m sorry your answer does not parse within the English language language as something that “Fills in the blank”.

as a reminder;

So fill in the blank with one, or more that one, non-dismissive answer(/s)? Climbing Everest is a(an) _________ endeavor, considering they walk past dying people for fading glory on the way up , as well as on the way down.
Before you start answering please take into consideration the statements of the most recent statements of those who have completed this activity, as well as the existence of irony, Bonus points for identifying the exhibition of irony in the preceding , relevant, statements.

If this level of subtlety is beyond you, I will make it clear in the near future.

I apologize for not automatically assuming that “corpses” meant “not corpses”.

Moderating

Repeating a post in an adversarial tone is not appropriate MPSIMS behavior. You aren’t in the pit. Take it down a notch or two.

No formal warning issued

I don’t see where anyone in this thread has suggested (without sarcasm) that attempting to summit Everest is any sort of noble endeavor, so I don’t understand why you’re asking anyone to defend that position.

As for your assertion that virtual corpses might be saved if they’re carried down, it’s been understood for a long time that anywhere around the summit, even ambulatory climbers are barely functioning, and the likelihood of their successfully bringing a non-ambulatory climber to a lower camp is almost zero. Indeed, the most likely outcome of such a rescue effort is for the ambulatory climber to die along with whomever they’re attempting to rescue, either by a fatal misstep while trying to move the virtual corpse, or by burning away the last vestiges of energy they need to get themselves down.

In industrial settings, confined-space training teaches workers that if someone in a confined space is rendered unconscious due to a toxic/hypoxic atmosphere, you are not supposed to go in there to rescue them unless you have the training and equipment to safely do so. There are cases on record where one person working in a confined space collapsed, and then one/two coworkers impulsively went in to rescue him. Result? Two/three dead instead of one. Everest is a similar sort of thing. If you try to rescue an incapacitated climber from anywhere near the summit, the most likely end result is two more bodies on the mountain instead of one. So when you come across a virtual corpse, you suppress your better nature, accept the awful fact that the person before you can’t reasonably be helped (and that they knew about this when they came to the mountain), and get on with your own survival.

Climbing Everest is an unvarnished, hardcore survival endeavor, considering they walk past dying people for fading glory on the way up , as well as on the way down.