So…you’re not basing your Last Thursdayism ideas on science at all, but rather on a very strange reading of the bible, where you seem to selectively ignore the many parts* that don’t fit your theory?
I’m sorry, I thought you were talking about something worth discussing seriously. You may entertain whatever religious fiction you like, but it doesn’t interest me.
So, when god-boy decides to restart, he does so not by actually restarting the system as any sane god would, but rather by deliberately and laboriously gathering together and packing up everything he likes up using an arkival compression technique, floods everything else in the simulation, then carefully unpacks everything and takes the extraordinary amount of time and effort to fake none of that ever happening? Other, that is, than a convenient record of it in the minds of the inbreeding little family he saved but clearly had to rewrite out of existence in recreating currently observable history, but from whom the record survived anyway? Riiiiight. If you believe that, I have this IPU to sell you, cheap! You can be sure it’s real because there’s no way to detect it. And it’ll only cost you everything you’ve got --that’s in simulated money, so it’s like you’re paying nothing at all!
This thread has become rather strange, so I will make it even more stranger.
The things that happen to you also happen to me and countless other spiritual people. Some would call you a psychic, I don’t know you well enough to judge. The dreams are lucid dreams and many people dream of the future and it comes true as they dreamed. Some don’t have to dream, but see visions of the future. There is no glitch in the system, the veil between the spiritual world and the physical world is thin and many can see through it from time to time. The coincidences you talk about are real and you bring them into your life by your thought process. It is a spiritual truth that we create are own realities. You are also right about this not being a real universe, it is a very good grand illusion for learning about ourselves. We choose to come into the physical for the purposes of learning who and what we really are. The longer explanation should be sought from books like the “Seth” collection of Jane Roberts. I believe you are trying to explain the spiritual using science which might be possible, who knows. But if you want to increase your knowledge of what is happening to you I suggest you read or seek out a psychic and talk about it. Good luck.
Are you aware of the gigantic pile of cold hard facts that exist - both in DNA and in the fossil record? I’m curious as to what you would consider a smoking gun. There are actually loads of them, buried in the rocks, if you’d only open your eyes.
Actually I’m fairly sure that that term means that you have to find, buried somewhere in ancient rock, a “missing link” fossil showing a halfway point in the evolution between crossbows and pistols, that is still emitting smoke after being fired some time presumably fifteen million years or so ago.
What created the thing that created us? Something had to create it, right? Turtles, all the way down.
You’re first sentence is not consistent with being “agnostic”. You don’t believe in evolution. Period.
There are so many cold hard facts out there supporting evolution by natural selection that the only way not to see them is to not want to see them. Oddly, there is ZERO evidence supporting any other hypothesis. (Or maybe that’s not so odd…)
Bolding mine. Tell me you don’t want to convert right now.
As for the whole theistic evolution thing, it’s a useful tool to prevent Christians from turning into out and out atheists (although it may have unintended effects). The original story is just too embarrassing for thinking people to hold onto. Still, the theistic evolution angle presents some internal discomforts. In a universe created and directed by an all powerful god where we are presumably the ultimate goal, what in the world was the point of most of the history on Earth? Why have trillions of species rise and fall for no apparent reason? Why have microbes change the gas content of the atmosphere? Why have the continents move and crash into each other?
Say what you will about the normal creation myth, but at least it’s efficient. God creates the world just as it is in six days (god is a union guy) and poofs people into existence. But if you’re into theistic evolution…why the hell did this critter ever exist?
Also, did god specifically create and kill all the trees and algae and miscellaneous sea life which was compressed into coal, oil, and natural gas so we could some day use it? Or was that a happy side effect?
If you want “awe-inspiring” I don’t think it’s possible to trump the universe as is. Like Carl Sagan said, we’re “star stuff contemplating star stuff.” YMMV.
Amazing how he managed to use it then to perfectly place all the necessary evidence to convince us modern people that the flood never happened and the planet was millions of years old. It would be a very delicate job, since there’s literally TONS of such evidence, and it’s all quite consistent.
(Note that your new formulation does not have a god going through and FSM-ing evidence into existence as it’s found. So, all the millions of delicate corrections would have had to have been made in advance, by that same ignorant kid.)
As much fun as it would be to go through your theory point by point and annihilate it with mocking hilights of all its problems, that would be a hijack of the thread. Let’s not bother.
Okay, has this been all one big woosh? If so, I sure fell for it. If not, then you have the most batshit insane interpretation of the bible that I’ve ever heard.
I really doubt that you will find any Jews (or any more than a tiny minority outside mainstream belief) who believe in an eye for an eye. The Lex Talionis was a correctiver to blood feuds imposed at or before the time of David (regardless whether he lived) and was part of mainstream Jewish theology for a very long time. Hillel, who lived before Jesus and whose sermons and stories were collected shortly after the time of Jesus expressed an idea very close to that of Jesus’s Golden Rule. (I’m always curious why those who criticize ancient Judaism’s “harsh” god always seem to have read nothing but Genesis and a few chapters of Exodus and Deuteronomy and Samuel or Kings. It is as though Amos, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Hosea, and the other prophets, with their calls for justice and their exclamations of thanksgiing for God’s mercy don’t exist.) ::: shrug :::
Yeah, slaughter a few peoples, level a few cities, and suddenly nobody pays attention to how much time you didn’t spend killing people anymore. Unfair, isn’t it?
Because the people who admire the Old Testament don’t seem to care much about those parts; only the kill-gays, massacre unbelievers, spare-the-rod-spoil-the-child and subjugating women parts. And as begbert2 says, mass murder rather outweighs the rest in importance.
