You gotta admit, its a catchy slogan.
Catchy and completely erroneous. Maybe you’re being sardonic…
U. S. slavery was not ended by the American Civil War? World War II did not defeat Nazi Germany? I’m a bit confused as to your comment, presidebt.
what’s so great about ending communism ? if it ended, if it ever existed …
And I’m confused as to why this was posted in IMHO instead of MPSIMS.
Buh-bye.
Well, to be technical, the American Civil War didn’t end slavery. The 13th Amendment to the Constitution did that. The war was just to say “Hey, you states can’t split off because of states’ rights and slavery.” Of course, I’ve overly simplifying things, but I believe that’s the general jist of it.
Also, war most certainly has not ended communism. At least three countries are still officially communist states, even though they’ve integrated a few capitalist ideas if the business section of the local paper is to be believed. War certainly didn’t bring down the Soviet Union; it’s own economy pretty much did that. And there are still active communist political parties all over the world.
“All right … all right … but apart from better sanitation and medicine
and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater
system and baths and public order … what HAVE the Romans done for US?”
LOLOL - and they just happen to be the things that tend to get sort of …um… broken in wars.
<completely irrelevant bit> - a couple of days ago - I was chatting with someone who had never herd of “Life of Brian” OR, I think “Monty Python”. Huh - Remind me to avoid the younger generation. :)</completely irrelvant bit>
Ahhh, the wonderful psuedo-deconstruction of thuggism or kleptocracy;
“Of course, real communism has never had a chance to be properly practiced.”
Puhlease …
Saying that the American Civil War ended slavery is like saying that the salary cap brought competitive balance to the NFL.
Man, that’s deep…
All right, but no one’s arguing Nazism, right? I mean apart from our moderator holdouts.
Well, there are Neo-Nazi’s running about, but I admit I’ve never tried to discover how much the two groups have in common. And, it’d pretty sloppy of me to say that without a doubt there is no Nazism in existence anywhere. After all, the only things that have ever been successfully ended by a war were the Tribbles by the Klingons and the All-You-Can-Eat buffet by me.
There is, without a doubt, one policy war has not ended: Imperialism.
Of course, the Gulf War of 1991 didn’t end Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait. Saddam withdrew his forces because he’s a good guy who peacefully saw the Error Of His Ways.
WW2 had no effect on Hitler. He was going to trash his plans for genocide and world domination anyway, we just didn’t give him enough time.
Also, the American Civil War had no bearing on the end of slavery. :rolleyes:
Please cite a major communist country that was overthrown by war.
Franco died in his sleep. Fascism in Spain and Portugal failed without war.
Slavery ended in most countries without war. The US was the only major country that had a war as a result of slavery. If the South had not started the war, the number of free states admitted would have overwhelmed the South politically. The 16th Amendment would have happened in any case. In the same area, look what happened to Apartheid in RSA. No war there.
No war has ever ended a political idea. Wars only affect particular regimes. We eliminated Hitler, we did not eliminate Fascism. A political idea dies because it is viewed as a bad idea by increasing numbers of people.
Yeah, just ask the founding fathers of Carthage if war never solved anything… If you can find any.
Or the French Revolutionists. Or the American. Or the English ones, for THAT matter. No political climate has EVER been changed by warfare.
Just ask all the peasants who died at Hastings. Hmmm. Elthelred the Unready is probably grave gyrating as we speak.
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War ends Facism/Dictatorship/Nazism/(insert other -isms here) the way that vaccination has ended some of the worst diseases we’ve faced.
No, it does not 100% eradicate the problem. Some small sample of it somehow seems to always survive. Some time in the future it wil always crop up again somehow.
But that’s not to say that you shouldn’t vaccinate. You still have to take care of the immediate problem and put the situation as close to right as possible. The same with war. No, WWII didn’t eradicate the Nazi’s or their way of thinking. But it did remove the immmediate threat. If we hadn’t done what we did, he would have surely ruled the world eventually. We barely turned the tide as it was.
War is and always will be a necessary fact of our existence.
I strongly disagree with this.
Wanna fight about it?