Explain "internet tv" to a dummy

I have an old TV with cable TV service, and I have a separate desktop computer and wireless router for internet. I’m thinking about upgrading the TV and trying to pare down my cable bill by getting basic service and using the internet / netflix / hulu / whatever to get movies and other content.

So I read about “internet TV” and “Google TV” and whatever Sony is coming out with this fall, and I am a little confused. How is this different from buying an internet-enabled BluRay player?

Also, they already are selling “internet-ready” TVs. What exactly does that mean? Does it just mean that you can use your TV as a monitor? What’s the “internet ready” thing? I assume you still need a cable modem or to connect it to your router, right?

I understand this is an evolving technology but it seems to me there’s a lot of hype going on. If all I want is to watch basic television and also get content via the internet, what is the big deal and why is this such a new thing? Is there any benefit to waiting for Google TV, or is that just a nice user interface with the same end result?

You have the right idea, with streaming video like hulu, and netflix which just made a deal with LionGate and MGM many people may not want to pay for cable you can hook up your computer to highspeed internet and stream that to your tv or use an HDMI cable or something, that is what I do with my laptop untill my Blu-Ray player udates to use netflix. Unless your a huge sports fan internet tv is the way to go. Hell most cable and non cable channels let you watch episodes on their website

“Internet Ready TVs” are already available. They just have built-in WiFi, and/or an Ethernet port.

It has nothing to do with using your TV as a monitor. You can do that with just about any HDTV that’s come out in the last few years, internet-ready or not. These TVs that can connect to the internet typically have some included software that allows you to view news headlines, weather reports, a stock ticker, etc. They also typically have simple apps that allow you to stream videos from YouTube or similar services. Some of them can also stream Netflix and/or Amazon’s video on demand service. Basically, it’s the exact same capabilities you’d see in a good Blu-Ray player (minus playing Blu Ray discs, obviously), but built right into the TV.

And, yes, to take advantage of these features, you obviously need some way to connect to the Internet.

I listened to a podcast (warning: mp3) about Google TV and other internet-on-tv stuff and the idea seems kind of bogus to me.

In order to have the full “enjoyment” of Google TV you need to have a cable TV subscription with a DVR. It lets you search your DVR and the channel guide for upcoming shows and shows you’ve recorded (but forgotten about?) But you can already do that with your DVR.

Here’s a video about Google TV from Google, with a couple of links to pages from companies wanting to sell you stuff in the future.

Google TV also lets you search online sources for your TV shows. So if you forgot to tape a show to your DVR, and the show is available on Hulu, it will point you to Hulu.

You can also use the web from your TV … which you can do from your couch while sitting in front of the TV if you have a laptop or a wifi handheld device (I do this with my iPod Touch).

I guess you can access music and photos on your Google TV…but maybe only if you put them online first.

Or, you can do what a lot of people do now and ditch your cable, and hook an actual computer up to your TV and use actual Google to search for stuff and have your actual music and photo files available and stream Pandora stations or Netflix movies.

The podcast I link to sort of comes to the conclusion that hooking a computer up to a TV is a really weird and confusing idea for most people, so that’s why we need Internet-ready TVs and Internet ready appliances like the XBox and Roku to help us figure it all out. But that becomes a money suck.

The Google TV thing seems like much ado about nothing.

Be careful of a scam that’s been around for years: Internet Satellite TV (no link, the sites are usually full of viruses.) Usually for ~$40, you’re promised an infinite number of channels worldwide. However, the actual application is simply a type of search engine with publicly available channels that no one would pay for anyway, and most don’t work. There’s roughly 150 different names for it but it’s all the same program. Most scammers rename it, sell it, and get a commission.

I think it helps to break “Internet TV” up into a couple of categories. The lines do get blurry in some cases.

One of the main motivations in all cases is to be able to get to video and music content that’s out on the Web, but to be able to watch it on your TV. Ideally in a way that’s no more complicated than using your cable box right now. A lot of this content is free (like Hulu), a lot of it is not (like Netflix). There are probably about a dozen heavy-hitter sites that account for most of the video and music out on the web, but there’s an awfully long “long tail” as well.

Some people also want to do things other than watch video. Check their email, play Farmville, read the local newspaper, look through Flickr, etc., etc. Basically everything people do now on the Web.

So there are a couple of different ways to do this, and each one has advantages and disadvantages.

  1. A dedicated “Internet TV” set-top box. Basically any box that plugs into your TV as another input, alongside of your cable box, your Blu-Ray player, your video game console or whatever else you have attached. The main job of this new box is to be a bridge between the Internet (either hooked up to your home wireless network or with a direct Ethernet cable) and your television. They generally come with some kind of remote, and some kind of user interface that works well with that remote.

Some of these boxes only connect to a couple of different sources of content. The Roku box is primarily for watching Netflix, for example. Some are pushing the idea of an “app store” (it goes by many different names), with the ability to hook up to a bunch of different sites. 99% of these apps are the same websites that you can get to through a normal computer, just reconfigured to work better on the device without needing a mouse or a keyboard. It’s pretty rare to get an “app” that has original content that wasn’t a website first.

Other entries in this area include the Syabas Popbox, the (not yet released) Boxee Box, and the upcoming Google TV box.

  1. An existing device, like a Blu-Ray player or a game console, that can also do Internet stuff. Netflix has been very aggressive about getting their content on lots of devices like this. YouTube is another very common option. Most of these devices don’t have a full “app store” - they generally have perhaps a dozen different sources of ‘extra’ content. Generally you don’t buy one of these devices just for their Internet content; it’s a nice extra. Although I don’t think it’s uncommon for someone to get a Blu-Ray player with Netflix included and find out that they spend more time watching streaming Netflix than they do actually watching Blu-Ray movies.

  2. An Internet-enabled TV. This can mean a couple of different things in Marketing-speak, but essentially this is like #1 above, but built into your TV. Your Ethernet cable plugs right into the back of the television, or it might have a wireless card included. You get “apps”, which again are typically reskinned versions of Internet content. Just as in the other cases, the manufacturer has the option of adding apps over time, so the next time you turn on your TV you might get a couple of new icons to check out.

Some people like this for the simplicity and the lower cost. Some don’t like it because you’re locked in - it’s a lot harder to buy a new TV than it is to replace a set-top box if something sexier comes along.

  1. Just hook up your computer to your TV. For just about any combination of TV and computer, there’s a cable you can get to hook them up together, so your TV functions like a giant monitor. The easiest thing is to get a computer that has an HDMI out on the video card. That way your video and audio all go into the television through one cable.

This setup gives you the maximum degree of flexibility; by definition, anything you can do on your computer, you can now do on your TV. If you want to view the Podunk Picayune on your TV, this is about the only option - Samsung is never going to build a Podunk Picayune App into their TVs. And you can still get to Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, etc.

The downside is that it’s a little more trouble to set up and you probably need to dedicate a computer to being hooked up to your TV full time (although some just plug in their laptops when needed). Also, you’re a little more on your own. If you have a problem with your Roku box, you know there are thousands of other people out there with the exact same setup. If you have a problem with your computer hooked up to your TV, you’re kind of on your own.

There’s lots of software designed to run on your computer that specifically works well on the television. Windows Media Center (for Windows, obviously), and Plex for the Mac are two popular options. Many people who use this option end up using a wireless keyboard and some kind of wireless pointer (like a trackball or a mouse), which can also throw off someone who’d rather use a more typical remote control for everything.

The company I work for produces software in this space, but I’m not sure of the policy here on commercial-ish posts, so I’ll leave that lie for now.

Hope this is helpful.

ebb, thanks so much, that is EXTREMELY helpful!!