Explain non-interactive pets to me

Inspired by the thread on pet rats, in which a tarantula is suggested as an alternative, I was speculating on just why anyone would keep a pet that was largely unintelligent. I have a cat, with whom I can interact, and who is affectionate and has a personality. It’s anthropomorphic, but this is somewhat reciprocated.

But a tarantula, iguana, snake, fish, or stick insect, I just don’t get. What is the motivation behind owning a pet that doesn’t interact? Do you find yourself anthropomorphising the things anyway?

I usually have a betta in the fish tank on my desk, but I haven’t replaced my last betta yet.

Bettas are somewhat interactive. You can’t touch them, which is a drawback, but they learn to recognize people and specific actions as being feeding gestures. Bettas do this really charming wiggle when they are going to be fed, though I can’t tell you if they are just excited or if they are trying to tell me that they are eager to be fed.

We have gerbils and they are very interactive, but I can also just sit and watch them for a really long time. They are extremely active (unlike many of your examples), so they are always up to something. It’s like a really small circus.

Many folks garden and they seem to enjoy it–even if their “interaction” with the plants is pretty limited.

I think a lot of people just get pleasure from nurturing other living things. And more power to 'em, I say.

In the case of fish, I think they may just be relaxing to watch. Some are pretty, and they move gracefully, they make little to no noise, that kind of thing. I used to like keeping fish to and learning to maintain a balance within the tank - just enough plants, keep the water temperature just right, keep the PH balanced (strong enough for the men, but PH balanced for the women), try out new lighting, etc. I felt like a little God.

As for insects, reptiles, or spiders of any sort, I have no clue. I’d like to say relaxing… or maybe they induce a vegetable-like state, as many of these animals do very little moving. I knew a guy who owned an iguana of some sort, and the only reason he gave me was because it was “so cool.” Very enigmatic answer…

I’m interested to hear some reasons, too.

I have some sea monkeys hatching out at the moment - part of it is the fascination of bringing life from what looks like dry, dead eggs. The other part of the fascination is that they are just like small humans that live underwater; the pack even has a picture of them.

And let’s not forget the fun when you feed them to your guppies!

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Many folks garden and they seem to enjoy it–even if their “interaction” with the plants is pretty limited.[/quite]I garden too, but there is a single purpose: I want my garden to look nice, nothing more.

That makes sense. When I was a kid my brother had stick insects, and apart from a) stinking, b) being gross, and c) escaping and infesting the house for years, I never got the point. I did have a snail when I was 6, but my mother accidentally killed it by leaving it in a fishtank all day in the sun. I cried for hours - but I realise now that I was anthropomorphising it.

I’m not criticising, btw, just curious.

On the one hand, you may be inferring a lack of interaction that is not supported by the evidence: quite a few lizards (including iguanas and bearded dragons) do interact with their owners or handlers.

On the other hand, some critters that do not interact are still fun to watch. (Have you or have you known some one else who watched clouds? Screensavers? Traffic? Butterflies?) Some critters that do not interact with people interact with each other in amusing ways. Some are interesting to watch when they are feeding. Some actually play (or seem to). Some are just assembled in a way that makes simple locomotion fascinating. There are lots of reasons to have pets that don’t curl up on your should, then poop when they get off.

Oops, I screwed my last post up bigtime. What I meant to say was:

I garden too, but there is a single purpose: I want my garden to look nice, nothing more.

That makes sense. When I was a kid my brother had stick insects, and apart from a) stinking, b) being gross, and c) escaping and infesting the house for years, I never got the point. I did have a snail when I was 6, but my mother accidentally killed it by leaving it in a fishtank all day in the sun. I cried for hours - but I realise now that I was anthropomorphising it.

I’m not criticising, btw, just curious.

I just got a betta today! His name is Jimenez, after a Twilight Zone episode that made my SO and I laugh uproariously. Long story. Anyway, I like having a betta because they’re beautiful, and a fishbowl is a nice decoration.

As far as anthropomorphizing, I’m guilty of that. As I was preparing the bowl for Jimenez I commented to my dad, “Now I have another thing to project my emotions onto!” My cat, well, he just looked at me like I was crazy.

ZJ

And there’s nothing wrong with that. I’m pretty sure the owner of this aquarium wants his living room to look nice. Does he get much satisfaction from his interaction with the fish? Probably not. But he does have one heck of a gorgeous tank.

It’s not hard to project your emotions onto a betta – my guy, Attila, is always really pissed off. Unless he’s all excited because he’s getting fed, and then afterwards he’s like, “What TOOK you so long to feed me, human?”

I get a lot of amusement out of Attila’s attitude. There’s a reason he has that name!

We used to have a really nice boa. He’s now living with a friend, and is a much-beloved member of the household. He likes to just hang around in laps and stuff. A very mellow, yet interactive, critter. He’s also just gorgeous, a nice redtail.

Iguanas do interact. I raised one for 4 years until it jumped off of my shoulder and ran away in the woods one day. They are a little exotic and a little scary (they can rip your arms to shreds in a second if you don’t keep their nails clipped). They get really attached to their owners and can get aggressive to outsiders. You have to bath them and watch their diet closely plus they can get huge (up to six feet for a male).

I’ll second (third?) this. Our beardie, while not nearly as easy to “read” as the cats or the dog, knows who each of the family members are and what she can expect from us. She regards Mr. Legend and my older daughter with something that looks like alert suspicion, but when my younger daughter or I approach, she brightens (as much as a reptile can) and will often move closer to her cage door. Her excitement at being fed her favorite foods is quite endearing, and I know she’s hungry if I see her climb higher on her rock to catch a glimpse of me in the hallway.

Okay, I’m probably (a) anthropomorphizing and (b) simply enjoying caring for another living being. But I still like her.

Our first Dragon was allowed to roam the house on warm days. His feeder crickets were kept in a plastic pet container, usually up on a shelf. One day, however, we left the cricket box down on the floor as we went to run some errands. When we came home, Chrys was standing up on his hind legs with his forelegs outstretched and his nose pressed against the side of the cricket cage, looking for all the world like the cat in this Gary Larsen Far Side cartoon.

Everything this man says is true.

Iguanas are smarter than you give them credit for, and I’ve heard and seen things most people wouldn’t believe an Iguana would be capable of. Iguanas have been taught to open doors, use the bathroom in a toilet, and can even beg for food just like a dog. Also like a dog, if you do something that upsets them, they’re liable to take it out on you, or something of yours they think is important. For a few years, my iguana (Spike) lived in a cage in my room with no top, only a brach over the top of the cage that stretched out underneath a heat lamp. Spike was toilet trained and only used the restroom in his cage…unless I fed him something he didn’t like.

I found that each time I fed him tomatoes, he’d get diarheah, and would go on my bed. I stopped feeding him tomatoes, and he went back to using his cage as a restroom. He’d explore my room, but for the most part he’d stay in or above his cage since thats where his water, food, and heat rock were. However, even though he had everything in his cage he’d need for comfort: food, water, hot rock, large branch underneath heat lamp, and a place or two to cool off; if I was ever on my bed reading he’d walk over to me and pay me a visit. Usually this included him licking me a few times, crawling on whatever book I was reading to gain more attention, and falling asleep on me after I rubbed his neck some.

As I was saying before, they beg for food quit often, and this is usually a product of the owner giving him human snacks every now and then. My iguana has experienced all sorts of human delicacys ranging from pizza, to potatoe chips, and thanks to my sister, even hard liquer. One day me and a friend were eating grilled cheese sanwhiches in my room when Spike came over since he knew I’d be willing to break bred. He settled near my friend and looked me hard in the eye.

Me: tears off piece of grilled cheese and hands it to friend Hey give this to Spike will ya?

Friend: Ok…starts handing grilled cheese chunk to lizard, but suddenly pulls sammich away from our little scaled friend, and sarfs it down :smiley:

My iguana did not take this act of treachery well, and my friend hardly saw the ramification of his betrayal coming. A split second later, Spike was leaping towards my friends chest, and upon landing proceed to scratch and bite at his heart as though to dig his way to the morsel of food that was rightfully his. My friend started screaming, and fell to the floor. I could hardly believe my eyes. Here, in my room, my iguana was trying to claw his way through my friend, and my friend was rolling around on the ground like he was in one of those dustcloud fights you see in Looney Toon cartoons. I was growing hysteric.

This continues for about twenty seconds untill my friend stops rolling, and both me and him can clearly see that my iguana is still tyring to rip his guts out, preferbly with grilled cheese intact. Naturally, he begins rowling and screaming again as I laugh.

Not too much longer, I pry the furious beast off of my friend, and give him a new piece of sandwhich. But the damage was done, and since then whenever my Iguana laid eyes on my friend, he’d fill himself with air, whip his tail, sometimes snap, and in general, grow belligerent. This was behavior reserved soley for my pal, a guy who had babysat Spike several times in the past, who had personally watched over him and probably has saved his at least as many times as my mom has.

I tell this tale to you so everyone here can pass this tale down to you children and learn from my friend’s mistake; for a wise man learns from his mistake, but a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others.

The lesson to be learned here is this: A Iguana’s trust is more valuable than 1/10 of a grilled cheese sandwhich.

Also, for the record, Spike is about 6 (7?) years old now, and other than the occasional sample of something from the human plate, leads a pretty healthy life.

With fish, the level of interactivity varies with the species, your average tetras (Neon, Cardinal, Black Skirt), Barbs, and Danios are all essentially mindless eating machines, swim back and forth, back and forth…

Bettas will recognize their owners and beg for food, perfect example, when i stand in front of the tank, the bettas “dance” and beg for food, if i don’t have food, they’ll still approach and interact with me, however, if my mother approaches the tank, they’re a little more cautious

Pufferfish, have the interactivity of a betta, and an “analytical” mindset for a fish, simply put, they hunt their prey, they’ll stalk it, swim around, looking from all angles, finding the best attack point and strike… they recognize their keeper and enjoy human company

a while ago, i had a Green Spotted pufferfish, before i left for work, Zaphod would be happily swimming up and down begging for food, i hand fed him pieces of freeze dried krill, and could “pet” him, many times when i came home from work, i’d notice Zaphod sitting on the gravel in the bottom of the tank, colors dull and drab, his belly gray, he looked…depressed…

as soon as he saw me, his colors brightened up, the iridescent green on his back got bright and intense, his belly became pure white and he began following my motions around the tank, he was basically a dog with fins…

Cichlids are also intelligent and interactive, many have the “charming” habit of re-arranging the tank decor to suit their wants and needs, not yours, it’s not unusual to do some aquascaping , and wake up the next morning to find the cichlids have re-arranged your hard work into something they like better

fish can be interactive, not “take them out of the tank to play with them” interactive, but they recognize and respond to their keeper…

Before I gave up on fish ownership, I had goldfish that were very interactive. They liked to hang out at the water surface and follow me around the tank whenever I was nearby. Some goldfish were more interactive than others. I also had different smaller fish which were more interactive with each other and didn’t seem to take as much notice of people.

I am definitely learning new things here!

They’re really Dave’s fish, but I think they’re beautiful, and soothing. I can sit and stare at the tank for hours. It’s very calming.

When I moved here, he had two cats, a dog, and the fish. I’m allergic to all but the fish, so we’ll probably have fish 'til we die.